silent whistle

[Peter Russell 4Participant @peterrussell4]

Can any one help/advise.

Im trying to fit a whistle – bell type to a steam loco – on air its ok.

On steam its a wet dribble.

The pipe from the valve to the whistle is lagged, the steam supply is from the header manifold which is fed from a dome.

Are there any whistles that are tollerant of wet steam?

Regards

Pete

[Peter Russell 4Participant @peterrussell4]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

My misunderstanding …

i looked at the thead title and thought you wanted something that only your dog [or bat] could hear.

For my pennance, however, I have found this: **LINK**

http://www.giangrandi.ch/mechanics/steamwhistle/steamwhistle.shtml

… which incluses the potentially useful observation: "Instead of steam I decided to use compressed air which is easier to find at home. But this whistle will work fine also with steam, if you are lucky enough to have a boiler. Just keep in mind that steam has a lower density than air and will produce a higher pitch."

MichaelG.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

You may be able to obtain the note that you want by adjusting the position of the bell, relative to the platform at the bottom of the whistle body, probably downwards towards the platform. ( The adjustment may need to be done to cover lower steam pressures, resulting in a higher pitch with higher pressures )

This may accommodate the different characteristics of steam, as opposed to compressed air.

DO let us know how you get on.

Howard

[Clive FosterParticipant @clivefoster55965]

Guy Lautard's Machinist's Bedside Reader Volume 2 has plans for a steam whistle including notes on tuning for air or steam. Said to be effective and very loud. Vol.II Page 134. A Replica Lunkenheimer Steam Whistle.

Some potentially useful links here :- **LINK** and here:- **LINK**

Google will find plenty of other hits too.

Clive

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

Bob Bramson did an article in ME some time ago, looks very similar to MG's link. I've made one to Bob's recipe, it works

[John PurdyParticipant @johnpurdy78347]

Pete

The article in ME by Bob Branmson was in Vol. 205 2010 #4289. There was also another by Peter Olds in the 4 Jun 1982 issue, Vol. 148 #3682. I made my whistle for my 5" "Gemma" to the design of the smaller one in Peter's article and it works well on both air and steam. It is fed off the side of the dome and runs totally dry producing a high pitched sound in the neighborhood of around 2500-3000 Hz. I have both articles if you are interested.

John

[John PurdyParticipant @johnpurdy78347]

Pete

I forgot to say the one I made is a bell type and is quite small. The bell is 1/2" dia by 3/4" long with an overall height of about 1 5/8".

John

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Being small, it is likely to produce a note with a high frequency. I hope that the note is not so high that it is beyond the upper limit of the human ear, and so inaudible to us! If so, it will be a dog whistle!

Anyone like to use the dimensions to calculate what the frequency is likely to be?

Howard

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