Myford ml3

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Is it possible to edit a post? The forum software has decided to change my closing parentheses into stupid smily face things.

George

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Posted by Georgineer on 03/09/2016 23:26:30:

Is it possible to edit a post? The forum software has decided to change my closing parentheses into stupid smily face things.

George

Hi George, you have about half an hour after you have posted to edit it, just click on the edit post in the green bar, so you would have had time to edit your previous post. After this timeout, only moderators can edit your posts.

Regards Nick.

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

At the end of the text in the brackets, don't put a punctuation mark before the closing bracket, different marks, and bracket give different smily faces.

Ian S C

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

From the other thread

Sean said What is this

Speedy Builder replied – Er , looks like a top slide clamp to lock the slide for milling ??

J

[sparky mikeParticipant @sparkymike]

Hi Sean,

I have just added an album entitled ML4 parts. photos may help you on your lathe. My lathe is mostly original with a few additions.

Mike.

Edited By sparky mike on 04/09/2016 18:23:22

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Posted by sparky mike on 04/09/2016 18:22:40:

Hi Sean,

I have just added an album entitled ML4 parts. photos may help you on your lathe. My lathe is mostly original with a few additions.

Mike.

Edited By sparky mike on 04/09/2016 18:23:22

you have a pm

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

I'v sent you a PM Mike

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

> The '80 thou per turn' dial was an approximation by Myford to the 83.3 thou actually given by the 12 tpi thread on ML1234.

LOL! Elsewhere someone said they couldn't accept a Chinese lathe that had dials approximating 1mm to 40 thou, a much smaller error than the Myford approach!

Neil

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Right … getting desperate now lol , is there anyway of getting a ml7 topslide and the topslide baseplate to work on my ml3 cross carrage. . I came across a guy that makes discontinued parts for my lathe ,I’ve emailed him ,but surely that’ll cost a fortune and I’m on a tight budget for this project.
What do you guys think .

Sean

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

I meant cross slide

Sean

[Brian WoodParticipant @brianwood45127]

Hello Sean,

​Can you measure the across dovetail dimension on your apron, then we can see whether or not a cross slide from a Myford ML7 might fit that?

At the moment most of us have no idea what might fit what>

Brian

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

He is missing the saddle.so no V to measure but Lathes.co.uk says ML7 parts aren't compatible here. The Gumtree link was the most promising but needed measurement and communication.

You can't hurry this if you are expecting to get a specific original saddle there might only be one every 6 months. It will be cheaper to buy another lathe than custom or new parts. Since almost no lathes ever get separated from their saddle when someone decides to break a lathe and sell the parts there shouldn't be much demand for this part.

As you could do with some local help and advice you need to put out feelers for other technical people near you who are not necessarily making it obvious but may have a lathe and other tools. eg aircraft modellers, car restorers, farmers, agricultural engineers, builders.

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

There’s a ml2 that’s been fitted out with ml7 parts ,I can’t remember where I sawas it , hence the reason I’m asking about the topslide and top slide mounting plate .

Sean

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

The ML7 topslide base has a spigot on the underside see last photo on this listing. and is waaay more expensive than a ML1234 one. Any small flat bottomed one would do – Chinese, hobbymat, Drummond etc but actually less common than the genuine article. The two main parts of the topslide should always be together and sold as a complete unit with screw etc. I did see one on ebay last month split in two and frankly think that is some shyster trying to screw someone for the second part after they bought the first.

I'm getting a little confused by a few of the recent posts and the names being used so lets just clarify a few things.

The big 3ft long lump is the 'bed'. The part you have still in your photo attached to the leadscrew that sits in front of the bed is the 'apron'. This attaches to the 'saddle' which sits on the bed (like horse saddle) so needs to have underneath the V to mate with the dovetail shape of the bed (Later Myfords were square not dovetail). The saddle will incorporate on top a male dovetail for the 'cross slide' that moves front to back. This cross slide has several T slots on top that are aligned down the length of the bed, not aligned along the length of the slide as with some new Chinese lathes. Any flat bottomed topslide or even a plain toolpost can be mounted using these T slots. "Topslide mounting plate" is not a standard term so I'm not quite sure if you are talking about the "topslide base" half of a topslide assembly or mixing up with the cross slide and really meaning the saddle.

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Interesting that any flat bottomed topslide will do so to speak . The part that the topslide sits on to allow it to swivel is the base/mount I’m meaning .

Which one of the flat bottom topslide would you suggest . Feel like I’m getting somewhere now ,thanks for your input Bazyle

Sean

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Well I'm still going to say an original ML1234 because they are the cheapest and most common. I have one on my Drummond because of that.
Interestingly in my case the screw holes don't align with the Drummond T slots but it had two tapped holes in the required position indicating that a previous owner had done exactly the same thing, then taken it off and probably sold it separately.

Just checked none on ebay at the moment and the last one I linked went for a lot more than I expected. Also I see there are a lot of ML7 bases on there which is perhaps why you asked. I do see this which is too small but shows all the bits you are missing.

I keep forgetting the other bit. That photo above of the two bits of iron are probably a cross slide screw cutting stop. I've not heard of one for a myford like that but if you google "boxford screwcutting stop" images you see the equivalent with its centre screw which is why it probably isn't compatible with a myford.

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

There maybe the cheaper ,not sure about being common lol .
I’ll just have to keep looking or resell the lathe now that I have a motor and cross slide and part of the topslide which is missing the screw .

Sean

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

http://www.lathes.co.uk/myford-ml2-rebuild/

Found this ….

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Me ….again !!!

If I connect the motor I have that has a 2″ pulley directly to the lathe and ingage the back gear can anyone tell me if that will be too much . Motor spins at 1450rpm . Think I know what the reply will be …. but I’m curious.

Sean

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Cross slide arrived today, guess what … it fits the ways properly but there’s no visual way for it to fit to the Apron . When I placed the Apron in place ,the two parts come together as they should but don’t match up if you know what I mean . Check out my album. Just about had it with this for now . Should have payed more attention to the photos that were sent .

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by sean logie on 07/09/2016 20:28:36:
Cross slide arrived today, guess what … it fits the ways properly but there's no visual way for it to fit to the Apron . When I placed the Apron in place ,the two parts come together as they should but don't match up …

.

Be grateful for small mercies, Sean … It's probably better that way than 'matching the apron but not fitting the bed'

Measure up the two [non] mating surfaces, and put a sketch in your album … Someone is sure to come up with a bright idea.

MichaelG.

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Will do Michael, I have a couple of ideas involving two dowels in the middle ,two flush fitting screws outside of the dowels . There's a local guy who has a small machine shop, I might ask if he would be willing to do it .

Sean

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Great progress. That assembly is a super bargain. I'd say that the fit is pretty good for something we knew wasn't the genuine ML3 part. The apron from Sparky's album picture shows the two screws use bosses and not a continuous ledge along the top of the apron.

Option 1. I would line one of them up and file a flat on the inside of the apron to screw on a bracket.

Option 2. I assume the front of the new saddle has a couple of holes to fit the apron from whatever lathe it originally came from so you could attach a small plate there to drop down in front of your apron.

Above all just be careful when drilling not to force anything and crack a casting.

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

At first I was disappointed but now I’ve had a wee think about it I can maybe do something with it . There are no screw hole on the cross slide which is strange ,I’m assuming the half nut is what locks the cross slide? Would using one of the the original screw holes (ie..the one closest to the chuck ) on the Apron

Sean

Edited By sean logie on 08/09/2016 07:49:06

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Isn't that strange. Probably means it has never been finished, hence not used. I wonder if it has been around for 60 years passing from one engineer to another thinking 'I can do something with that one day'

Yes, use the existing hole closest to the chuck so the slide can get as close as possible to the work. Also I hope you noticed the saddle handwheel gears modification on Sparky's one. Something to do later..

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