Indoor R/C Flight & a whole lot more

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

This Video popped up on You-Tube, some quite amazing indoor flight, a bit more advanced than your old balsa and a rubber band!

More video of other subjects further down the thread

Edited By JasonB on 10/11/2019 07:41:27

[Brian OldfordParticipant @brianoldford70365]

I doubt the H&S stazi would allow that in the UK.

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Thanks for the entertaining video Jason

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[Bob RodgersonParticipant @bobrodgerson97362]

Indoor RC Flying has been going on all over the UK for many years ands I see no reason why the H & S Staxzi, as you call them would object to it.

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Great models and great pilots – especially the jet model! Who wouldn't smile when a flying happy face lands in their lap? A-10 was great too.

Edited By Jeff Dayman on 09/11/2019 22:58:40

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

I don’t see a problnem. Plenty of safety netting stretched around the flying area. OK, some people may have been too close to the netting, but that is no reason to ban it.

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

Thanks for linking to that great display Jason.

There is usually a good indoor flying display in the London Model Engineering Exhibition at Ally Pally.

Not on the same scale as the one Jason linked to but still good fun to watch (and yes it is behind netting).

Edited By V8Eng on 09/11/2019 23:43:23

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

As V8 says see it at the MEX every year, there are some very skilled young pilots in the UK who can hold their own with most in Europe and normally put on an excellent show.

Emgee

[I.M. OUTAHEREParticipant @i-m-outahere]

Never seen anything like it before ! Amazing skills and models !

LMAO watching the the witch !

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Now I've started to get more videos from the show come up. This is more like what MEX used to be where all the different branches of modelling were catered for at one big exhibition

One for the live steamers and model railway fans. That loco is pulling a LOT of people.

One with RC cars, heavy plant, Drone racing, outdoor flying including some big gliders if you are looking Andrew.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I think the "jet" was actually using a ducted fans.

With the latest brushless motors and batteries you can probably make just about anything fly provided you can keep the weight down. A lot of those aircraft look like they were 3D printed rather than the more traditional construction methods which allows a very thin skin and minimal materials to form the core. So with a good power to weight ration they don't need a lot of airspeed to create vast amounts of lift.

[Brian HParticipant @brianh50089]

Thanks for that Jason, very entertaining!

Brian

[Ron LadenParticipant @ronladen17547]

Thanks for posting Jason,

I agree the jet is almost certainly electric ducted fans, I wondered if it had vectored thrust it can loop in its own length with almost no forward airspeed for the control surfaces….maybe, dont know.

I know it was ideal conditions but as you say the steamer had a hell of a lot of people behind it.

Some good viewing..

p.s. Yes vectored thrust you can see it in some of the flight, impressive.

Edited By Ron Laden on 10/11/2019 08:47:58

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Quite extraordinary!! The last indoor I went to was in the 80s, in the big hangar at Cardington – a rather different offering! IIRC we had the first demo (for the RAFMAA) of an R/C indoor model – balsa and microfilm and rudder only. How times have changed!

Most amusing? – the 'witch', of course. Most eye-watering? – as an ex-helo man, that demented green 'thing' at the end of the clip!!

Some mind-boggling aerodynamics going on there – excessive electric power, of course, but the low speed stuff and controllability of the Antonov, ATR , Horton twin jet and the Viggen etc.would make some very interesting Perf plots!

Thank you Jason

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

This is more like what MEX used to be where all the different branches of modelling were catered for at one big exhibition

So who do you consider was responsible for the change? The exhibitors or the exhibition organisers – exhibitors wanting their own separate show or the organisers wanting more events?

A change for the better or worse?

Has this led to the demise of several model engineering exhibitions?

A good platform for some lively/honest discussion?

Btw – keep ‘em coming!

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Some outdoor flying

Drift cars, diggers, trials, etc

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

Love watching this and it’s nice too see Concord flying again, just as an aside does anyone know how the two flying locomotives work.

[Ron LadenParticipant @ronladen17547]

Thanks again Jason, too many excellent areas of modelling to mention, good to see that modelling across the board is alive and well..

V8Eng, the two flying locomotives will be rigged like drones with two or more props producing down thrust and a gyro for stability and control, the things people think of..

Edited By Ron Laden on 10/11/2019 16:21:29

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Have just read that all operators of flying machines weighing over 250 grammes will have to register the machine,pas a theory test and pay an annual licence fee of £9, or face a heavy fine.

This is intended to limit / eliminate the use of drones to disrupt airport activities, and to make flying safer.

Presumably, a gas turbine will survive ingesting a 240 grm object but not a 260 grm one?

Given the number of drones already sold into the public domain, this is going to be difficult to enforce.

This will place an additional load and cost onto the many model aircraft flyers who have no wish to be anywhere near a location where full size aircraft of any description, operate.

Looks like another piece of badly thought out legislation coming far too long after the event that it is intended to control. As usual, penalise the legal to avoid punishing those who are really guilty and ignoring the law.

Just like the UK gun controls. "We'll clamp down on you because you have a 12 bore. Nothing we can do about the smuggled AK47s"

For the record, I neither fly a drone, model aircraft, nor have ever owned a firearm.

Howard

Edited By Howard Lewis on 11/11/2019 15:17:16

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

That video proves that anything will fly if (a) it has a high enough power to weight ratio and (b) it is either naturally stable OR has a negative feedback control system to overcome any instability.

I liked the flapping whale…

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