Gate mill

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

can anyone help me to find information about these Gate 301D mills please, I'm thinking of buying one.

Regards Rob

Edited By Robonthemoor on 24/11/2016 23:31:56

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Help on info about this type of mill

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Plenty of pictures on epay. One for a grand. Made in Yugoslavia.

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

Can't remember which model but I once operated one. From memory the one we had was similar to a Tos and one of the larger Beaver turret mills. It was a reliable machine in it's day.

[Nigel McBurney 1Participant @nigelmcburney1]

I believe that Gate machinery was part of or associated with the Elliott group,I had an Elliott Millmor turret mill for 25 years and owned a very similar Gate turret mill for a short time.They are heavy reliable machines around 1 3/4 tonnes and need a lot of head room,particularly if you require to remove the drawbar frequently,they have lots of travel and capacity, there seems to be lots of options on the spindle,int 3 ,int 4 ,,R8 should you wish to do a lot of boring I would definitely look for a machine with int 40 spindle, the int 40 tooling is robust and readily available. I found that the Elliott brand resells better than the Gate,though they are virtually the same machines.I am now well past retirement and found winding the knee up became hard work.you should consider resale and its the height which is a problem to prospective customers. I have now had to downsize to an 00,omnimill. If I was buying again and a lot younger I would go for either a TOS turret mill which has int 40 spindle and power feed on ALL axes though they are big heavy machines, or go lighter and go Bridgeport with all the attachments,as they hold their value. Another machine to consider is the Elliot turret mill with the additional horizontal spindle in the main column ,which could be very useful for heavy milling.Int 30 tooling is not so readily available,never used R8, The int spindles have four tapped holes around the spindle taper which is useful for bolting larger tooling i.e. boring bars ,large flycutters etc.hope this helps.

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Posted by Nigel McBurney 1 on 25/11/2016 08:37:12:

I believe that Gate machinery was part of or associated with the Elliott group,I had an Elliott Millmor turret mill for 25 years and owned a very similar Gate turret mill for a short time.They are heavy reliable machines around 1 3/4 tonnes and need a lot of head room,particularly if you require to remove the drawbar frequently,they have lots of travel and capacity, there seems to be lots of options on the spindle,int 3 ,int 4 ,,R8 should you wish to do a lot of boring I would definitely look for a machine with int 40 spindle, the int 40 tooling is robust and readily available. I found that the Elliott brand resells better than the Gate,though they are virtually the same machines.I am now well past retirement and found winding the knee up became hard work.you should consider resale and its the height which is a problem to prospective customers. I have now had to downsize to an 00,omnimill. If I was buying again and a lot younger I would go for either a TOS turret mill which has int 40 spindle and power feed on ALL axes though they are big heavy machines, or go lighter and go Bridgeport with all the attachments,as they hold their value. Another machine to consider is the Elliot turret mill with the additional horizontal spindle in the main column ,which could be very useful for heavy milling.Int 30 tooling is not so readily available,never used R8, The int spindles have four tapped holes around the spindle taper which is useful for bolting larger tooling i.e. boring bars ,large flycutters etc.hope this helps.

Wow thanks for the info Nigel, do they have power feed on the quill🤔

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

Yes power feed on the quill of the one I operated. I never liked the 30/40 int tooling for the type of work I did but that issue is now resolved with cost effective ER chucks.

[Nigel McBurney 1Participant @nigelmcburney1]

There is quill power feed on both the Gate and Elliott Milmor, three rates of feed, If I remember correctly the feed on the Gate was engaged by a small lever, The milmor had a horrible method of feed engagement,it had a knurled knob about two ins diameter which had be turned really hard to engage the clutch. I used Clarkson auto lock holders and Bristol Erickson DA collets,if I was starting now I would go for ER collets,they have a far superior grip.

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Ok boys I've bought it, the Bridgeport @. The side of it looked small! All work well very tight & positive, still on the road but will look later at your comments and more help I need. Thanks you guy you made a dream come true 😍

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

When I had it running & the quill feed engaged, can anyone tel me if when @ the end of its travel" will it flick itself out of drive or will it keep going & destroy the gear drive🤔

Rob

[Alan .204Participant @alan-204]

You better get it running I've a job for you?

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Hi guys, can anyone inform me how to oil them small brass oil access points with a small sprung loaded ball in the centre, they drive me nuts trying to get oil into them with a oil can😡 Are there proper oil cans for them🤔

Regards Rob.

Ps check out Allen Pears new utube channel he's just started give him some 👍

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Posted by Robonthemoor on 25/11/2016 21:04:37:

When I had it running & the quill feed engaged, can anyone tel me if when @ the end of its travel" will it flick itself out of drive or will it keep going & destroy the gear drive🤔

Rob

Found out it has a clutch for this to stop if overloaded.

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Posted by Robonthemoor on 13/12/2016 16:48:42:

Hi guys, can anyone inform me how to oil them small brass oil access points with a small sprung loaded ball in the centre, they drive me nuts trying to get oil into them with a oil can😡 Are there proper oil cans for them🤔

Regards Rob.

Here y'go:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oil-Gun-for-Lathes-Milling-Machines-/122263534386?hash=item1c77797b32:g:WM0AAOSwYGFU12pD

 

Edited By David Standing 1 on 14/12/2016 17:44:51

Edited By David Standing 1 on 14/12/2016 17:46:08

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Posted by David Standing 1 on 14/12/2016 17:43:53:

Posted by Robonthemoor on 13/12/2016 16:48:42:

Hi guys, can anyone inform me how to oil them small brass oil access points with a small sprung loaded ball in the centre, they drive me nuts trying to get oil into them with a oil can😡 Are there proper oil cans for them🤔

Regards Rob.

Here y'go:

No not that type. The round endented type with a spring loaded ball in the centre

**LINK**

Edited By David Standing 1 on 14/12/2016 17:44:51

Edited By David Standing 1 on 14/12/2016 17:46:08

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

No not that type. The brass dome endented type with a spring loaded ball in the centre

 

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Do you mean like a grease nipple?

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Posted by Bazyle on 16/12/2016 19:32:13:

Do you mean like a grease nipple?

No, not like a grease nipples. 1/4" Round brass indented with a very small sprung loaded ball in the centre. Some work by putting the oil can nozzle into the centre & pump, others the oil will not go in, I assume they pull out to clean them, or put the airline down to clear the path.

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Anyone know how to take off the head brake unit on top of the head, to replace the belt,, I've taken the four Alen keys out but it seems a little reluctant to lift off, gate mill G301D

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Robonthemoor on 13/12/2016 16:48:42:

Hi guys, can anyone inform me how to oil them small brass oil access points with a small sprung loaded ball in the centre, they drive me nuts trying to get oil into them with a oil can😡 Are there proper oil cans for them🤔

Regards Rob.

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I use an oil can with a pump and nozzle.

Mostly pushing the ball in with the nozzle and working the pump handle injects a shot of oil just as you would expect. But some of my oilers act like a clack valve when pressure is applied. These oilers work OK when the nozzle is angled slightly so that oil can get round the ball.

I don't think you're meant to squirt loads of oil through them; they're for frequent small doses.

Dave

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Can anyone tel me what I have done by turning the c nut at the end of the quill anti clockwise quarter of a turn & as you can see it's given me a small gap & I don't know how to get it back to where it was.

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

Can any one help me on how this brake unit comes off.

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Posted by Robonthemoor on 16/12/2016 13:26:47:

No not that type. The brass dome endented type with a spring loaded ball in the centre

 

Please post a picture of one of the oil nipples in question .

[RobonthemoorParticipant @robonthemoor]

This type, I find them very annoying😡

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