format question

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Any body tell me why, this week, when I have typed in any sentences, & I want to move down to a new sentence the cursor shifts back to the beginning of the sentence instead of dropping down one line, I have to press 'shift' & 'enter' together to drop cursor to start / continue sentence. It only happens on this website, don't have this problem with other forums, any one else have / had this
​anomaly

George

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Cursor returning to sentence begining when ‘enter key is pressed

[Chris GunnParticipant @chrisgunn36534]

Chris Gunn George it happens to me as well, on this forum and on my emails too, via the BT email. There it goes it did it again!!!

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

That has always happened on this forum site.

I simply press return then the page down arrow things to get to a new sentence. Simples.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

It never used to happen, but Apple made a change in how their editor behaves a few years ago,

Neil

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Posted by Chris Evans 6 on 19/11/2016 20:50:50:

That has always happened on this forum site.

I simply press return then the page down arrow things to get to a new sentence. Simples.

​It has always worked up 'til about week – 10 days ago then it started acting up so something's changed in the past 10 days…?

G.

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Works fine for me (Firefox, Windows 8.1).

<Enter> at the end of line above gives double spacing.
<Shift-Enter> at the end of line above gives single spacing.

[Steven VineParticipant @stevenvine79904]

On my machines:

windows 10 + edge browser = pressing the ENTER key performs a carriage return only (ie cursor goes to start of line).

windows 10 + firefox browser = pressing ENTER key performs a carriage return (ie cursor goes to start of line) plus 2 line feeds.

It is very annoying that i get 2 linefeeds in this editor window!

And since when has pressing SHIFT+ENTER been the way to perform a CR+LF. It goes against convention.

I've noticed that line feeds sometimes get stripped out of emails when the email is transported across different platforms. The format of the line breaks gets messed up, and the composition looks all wrong.

These 'new kid on the block' programmers are changing convention (because they can and because it seems a good idea to them). It is leading to chaos.

Steve

Edited By Steven Vine on 20/11/2016 09:17:25

Edited By Steven Vine on 20/11/2016 09:19:16

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

I used to use IE when I was on W-7, ended up having to change to W-10, tried using IE, and found the same problem, plus I couldn't post photos. Changed to Google Chrome, no problems.

Ian S C

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Steven Vine on 20/11/2016 09:10:10:

These 'new kid on the block' programmers are changing convention (because they can and because it seems a good idea to them). It is leading to chaos.

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For what it's worth [which is probably not much], I have just skimmed through the html for this page.

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/ckeditor/ckeditor.js?d=181113"&gt;

… seems to confirm my belief that the forum uses CKEditor **LINK**

http://ckeditor.com/

Someone with a better skill-set might like to investigate further.

MichaelG.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Steven Vine on 20/11/2016 09:10:10:

On my machines:

windows 10 + edge browser = pressing the ENTER key performs a carriage return only (ie cursor goes to start of line).

windows 10 + firefox browser = pressing ENTER key performs a carriage return (ie cursor goes to start of line) plus 2 line feeds.

It is very annoying that i get 2 linefeeds in this editor window!

And since when has pressing SHIFT+ENTER been the way to perform a CR+LF. It goes against convention.

I've noticed that line feeds sometimes get stripped out of emails when the email is transported across different platforms. The format of the line breaks gets messed up, and the composition looks all wrong.

These 'new kid on the block' programmers are changing convention (because they can and because it seems a good idea to them). It is leading to chaos.

Steve

Edited By Steven Vine on 20/11/2016 09:17:25

Edited By Steven Vine on 20/11/2016 09:19:16

Windows convention is that enter alone gives you spaced paragraphs and shift-enter just gives a line break without inserting whitespace – its not a double line feed. (i.e. the behaviour in Firefox under all iterations of windows, this is also what Office does). If edge isn't putting in the whitespace, something odd is happening.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 20/11/2016 09:49:03:

Posted by Steven Vine on 20/11/2016 09:10:10:

These 'new kid on the block' programmers are changing convention (because they can and because it seems a good idea to them). It is leading to chaos.

.

For what it's worth [which is probably not much], I have just skimmed through the html for this page.

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/ckeditor/ckeditor.js?d=181113"&gt;

… seems to confirm my belief that the forum uses CKEditor **LINK**

http://ckeditor.com/

Someone with a better skill-set might like to investigate further.

MichaelG.

I'm not sure, it's been changed twice in the past five years.

Every change gives a different set of grumbles so I doubt there's any enthusiasm to change again*.

Neil

*Bear in mind the editor is used across all MTM forums, not just this one.

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