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  • #415293
    Steve King 5
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      @steveking5

      Hi all

      I have the DTI but it doesn't say if its metric or imperial nor does it say what each increment is. Its very heavy and feels smooth so I'm hoping it's a good quality one.

      Can anyone help.

      Thanks

      Steve

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      #26674
      Steve King 5
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        @steveking5
        #415294
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          Why not mount it on your lathe or mill and move a handwheel by a known amount and see if the dial reads that amount in metric or imperial

          #415295
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133

            Catalogue of the more modern ones, is available:

            Search for Rambold precision dial gauges and accessories

            … I don't know Rambold, but they look promising.

            MichaelG.

            #415298
            I.M. OUTAHERE
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              @i-m-outahere

              I will have a guess and say a tenths indicator with a total travel of .020 inch but the only way to be certain is to do what Jason said and compare it with the movement of a graduated dial like a lathe cross slide or you could set it up in an indicator stand on a flat surface so the nib is vertical and touching said flat surface and slip a feeler gauge between the nib and the flat surface .

              Have a look on the long island indicator website as they may have some info on that make of indicator .

              #415301
              Anonymous

                I'd be inclined to say metric +/- 10mm with each small division being 0.01mm. However, look at how much the nib is sticking out; which will equate to the total travel, that'll tell you if it's +/- 0.01" or +/- 10mm.

                Is it an indicator or a test indicator? The former have a shaft that moves in the vertical direction, the latter normally have a moveable lever that can move in any position it is set.

                Andrew

                #415325
                old mart
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                  @oldmart

                  Metric ones are commonly yellow.

                  #415359
                  Steve King 5
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                    @steveking5

                    Think its metric as it does not line up when mounted to my lathe as suggested by JasonB.

                    If any one wants to swop it for a imperial equivalent drop me a message.

                    Thanks

                    Steve

                    #415360
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      There should not be much thinking about it.

                      If your lathe is imperial put on 0.050" feed and if the dial goes round 5 times it is imperial. If the dial goes round once plus 27 divisions it is metric as 50thou equals 1.27mm

                      If it is more sensative and does not have that range of movement try 0.005" feed

                      #415362
                      Steve King 5
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                        @steveking5

                        Thanks JasonB

                        Its metric 0.050 equal the one full rotation plus 27 divisions.

                        Thanks for helping out the novice its much appreciated .

                        Thanks

                        Steve

                        #415369
                        John Haine
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                          @johnhaine32865

                          99% of the time one uses a DTI as an indicator, e.g. of runout or misalignment of a vice with a mill axis, and the measurement uints are irrelevant as you only want to get zero movement.

                          #415371
                          Steve King 5
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                            @steveking5

                            I plan on using the DTI like this

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                            #415372
                            Nicholas Farr
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                              @nicholasfarr14254

                              Hi, it is quite possible that it was for use in a quality control as a comparator. Either it may have been to match parts in pairs or set amounts, or to check on production runs, either way the operator would not need to know any measurement as such, but would set the test machine to a master and compare the tolerances for production runs, hence the zero being in the middle of the stroke.

                              Just my thought the reason that it doesn't indicate mm or inches and the fact the little 10-0-10 dial would suggest it being used horizontally..

                              Regards Nick.

                              #415382
                              John Haine
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                                @johnhaine32865

                                I think DTIs are intended for use as comparators, not accurate or indeed precise measurement. Their calibration is ultimately dependent on a rack-and-pinion, not a precision thread or transducer. They do have high resolution, for example indicating 0.01 mm/division, but one division will not necessarily be 0.01 mm if you see what I mean. Though it would probably do the job in the application you show, for best accuracy you would be better using for example a DRO.

                                In the language of this a DTI has high resolution but is not very accurate or precise.

                                #415384
                                Steve King 5
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                                  @steveking5

                                  I'd love a DRO but even the cheapest Chinese one are hundreds and I only have tens hahaha. Maybe one day.

                                  Thanks

                                  Steve

                                  #415423
                                  old mart
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                                    @oldmart

                                    If I'm not mistaken, that lathe you have is a S & B model A.

                                    #415424
                                    Steve King 5
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                                      @steveking5

                                      That's correct a mk2 I believe

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