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  • #408123
    Adam Harris
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      @adamharris13683

      I understand how to determine the pitch of a gear by measuring the outside diameter and number of teeth, but how do I measure a rack to get the dimensions/pitch/other of a correctly meshing gear?

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      Adam Harris
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        #408125
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          For metric MOD pitches measure the pitch of the rack and divide by Pi (3.142….)

          For DP divide Pi by the pitch in inches.

          Best to measure the rack over say 10 teeth and then take the average rather than trying to measure just one tooth

          Edited By JasonB on 07/05/2019 19:50:02

          #408126
          Bill Davies 2
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            @billdavies2

            Adam, if you have some dowels or pins of a suitable and identical size to sit about halfway down in the tooth space, you can measure over the pins, over a distance of several teeth. Subtract the diameter of one pin, and divide by the number of teeth, less one (i.e., counting from zero).

            By converting into appropriate units you can look up the pitch on a table of metric Module sizes, or diametral pitch (DP) for inch sizes.

            Hopefully, this should get you started:

            https://khkgears.net/new/gear_knowledge/abcs_of_gears-b/basic_gear_terminology_calculation.html

            Bill

            #408127
            Bill Davies 2
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              #408138
              Pete Rimmer
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                @peterimmer30576

                Set your digital caliper to 3.142 inches and offer it up to the rack teeth. If the jaws span a number of teeth exactly then count the teeth they span – that's the equivalent DP of the rack.

                If the jaws don't span whole numbers of teeth then it's a module rack. Measure across ten teeth and divide the answer by 31.42.

                #408142
                Adam Harris
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                  @adamharris13683

                  Pete, that is without doubt the most excellent response anyone could hope for! Many thanks, Adam

                  #408144
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133
                    Posted by Pete Rimmer on 07/05/2019 20:52:17:

                    […] If the jaws don't span whole numbers of teeth then it's a module rack.

                    .

                    Or perhaps, a 'circular pitch' Imperial rack ?

                    MichaelG.

                    #408147
                    Pete Rimmer
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                      @peterimmer30576

                      Yeah it could be that Michael, good call.

                      #408148
                      Adam Harris
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                        @adamharris13683

                        It is a metric machine (Schaublin 12) so indeed probably MOD

                        #408150
                        Adam Harris
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                          @adamharris13683

                          I want to make a rack lever for it schaublin 12 rack lever.jpg

                          #408151
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133

                            Adam,

                            That looks like an ideal application for a circular pitch rack [be it Imperial of Metric]

                            … measure carefully

                            MichaelG.

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                            Edit: The first two PDFs from this page should help

                            http://www.davall.co.uk/dsg-power-transmission/catalogue/gears/

                            Edited By Michael Gilligan on 07/05/2019 22:02:39

                            #408154
                            Adam Harris
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                              @adamharris13683

                              I will revert tomorrow in the daylight with measurements

                              #408155
                              Adam Harris
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                                @adamharris13683

                                Michael thanks for that link

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