Bandsaw blades

[Brian HParticipant @brianh50089]

Hello Bill, I have had bandsaw blades for my Proxxon MBS 240 made up by;

http://www.lmcuttingtools.com/LM_Cutting_Tools/L_M_Cutting_Tools_saw_blades.html

This company will make any length of blade.

Brian

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

I doubt you'll manage to weld it with mig, you could try – nothing lost. If you have brazing equipment it will be a better bet I think.

I got may blades from Tuff saws **LINK** you can get them custom ordered to size.

Chris

[BC ProfParticipant @bcprof]

Google TUFFSAWS. They make blades to order .

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Robin, Brian and Chris, many thanks. I think the made to order replacement is the way to go. Just a further query – what should one specify for an all-round blade (Bi-metal, tpi etc?) or should one get separate metal and wood use blades?

Thanks again

rgds

Bill

[the artfull-codgerParticipant @theartfull-codger]

I've a home made jig & silver solder the scarfed joint first flattening a piece of silver solder on the anvil then placing it in between the ends with wet flux & using a sievert torch with a small burner, never found the need to anneal or line up the teeth,works every time,I was at an autujumble & picked up a genuine wadkin bursgreen brazer, electric, with clamps etc quite a heavy cast device, nice to use but no better than my home made one,just a bit more nice & convenient to use, never ever seen one before or since but if wadkin made a brazing machine it must be ok to braze blades.

[John PParticipant @johnp77052]

Posted by ChrisB 21/08/2019 17:59:22
I doubt you'll manage to weld it with mig, you could try – nothing lost.

Back in 2010 published in MEW 166 i wrote and article on Mig welding
bandsaw blades, i have not bought a made blade for 20 + years just make
them from a reel of blading.
They last so long that i need sometimes to resharpen them.

John

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

Posted by John Pace on 21/08/2019 18:52:10:

Posted by ChrisB 21/08/2019 17:59:22
I doubt you'll manage to weld it with mig, you could try – nothing lost.

Back in 2010 published in MEW 166 i wrote and article on Mig welding
bandsaw blades, i have not bought a made blade for 20 + years just make
them from a reel of blading.
They last so long that i need sometimes to resharpen them.

John

I'm sure it's possible to mig weld the blade (as you confirmed John). I was replying to Bill's question, and as he stated he never ever welded before, I had my doubts if he'd be successful on a thin blade as a first try.

Edited By ChrisB on 21/08/2019 19:04:47

[Gary WoodingParticipant @garywooding25363]

Posted by Cornish Jack on 21/08/2019 17:18:01:

Just broken the blade on my Naerok bandsaw – bought secondhand 40 years ago, so possibly a bit overdue!

It's a 70" length ??tpi and has been used on wood, ali and plastic. The only specified length replacement I can find is a 6 tpi wood use only. As a confirmed 'tool magpie', I have two stick welders and a recent Lidl purchase – Mig welder??? I have never welded anything, ever!, so I suspect that any attempt is doomed to failure BUT, is it worth trying? , and with which one? Also, can anyone suggest a UK source for Naerok compatible replacements

TIA

rgds

Bill

Hi Bill,

I also have a very old Naerok bandsaw, which I appears to be identical to **THIS* Clarke cbs355 bandsaw.

[john fletcher 1Participant @johnfletcher1]

Yes Wadkin did make or just supply a band saw blade brazer, for their large band saws, we had one at work. If a centre needed to be cut out in a large piece of wood, the machinists cut the blade, poked the blade through the hole, which had already been bored in the wood, then brazed the blade up again and carried on working. I silver solder blades as outful doger does above. Not always successful, but one can use up odd parts of blades that way.

[IanTParticipant @iant]

At the low costs involved, I treat bandsaw blades as consumables – although up till now I've only needed wood blades. Thinking about it, might be a good idea to get a back-up blade for my new metal saw, which I haven't got around to using as yet (thinking about mounting it vertically). Had the old McMaster chopping up 1" bar recently though – and it sure beats the strongarm!

I get my blades from TuffSaws – very good blades, excellent online advice, good choice of blades, custom made to length and quick delivery. Happy customer.

Regards,

IanT

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Thanks again for all the useful advice and, particularly, a PM from Ian W setting out the options. I think that I shall go for a primarily wood use replacement.

Gary W – yes, the Clarke model is a 'dead ringer'.

rgds

Bill

[BC ProfParticipant @bcprof]

When I purchased my Clark CBS355 bandsaw many moons a go I had trouble with breaking blades . It is a 3 wheel design . Tuffsaws made me up some blades from thinner material . Problem solved

Brian

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Have never had much success with welding broken blades together again. They seem to break very soon afterwards

Cromwell Tools will make up blades to order, but probably at a cost.

Originally, I had a small Bndsaw, but blades did not last, The blade was twisted quite severely from the wheels onto the guides, so that it soon failed. (Plus the casting was cracked, and had been painted! ) so returned it in favour of the "standard" 4.5" model.

Having the tracking and guides correctly set is important.

In E I M there was an article on making a Tension Meter. Made one up, and since using it, blades not only cut better, and more accurately, but they last longer.

Found that Screwfix can supply Starrett branded blades on a next day basis, for about 30% less than the Bandsaw Importers, so have a couple in stock against the next time that the blade breaks.

Howard

[Brian Baker 2Participant @brianbaker2]

Greetings Jack, re your question, I also have one of these saws, which has served me well over the years.

I use 6 tpi for wood, and bimetal 14 tpi 1/2 wide blades for metal.

i get my blades from Trucut in Ross on Wye, and their service is excellent.

Regards

(another) Brian

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I've managed to braze blades and have them last for a while.

My attempt at welding just blew a huge hole…

Neil

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 22/08/2019 17:15:27

…..

My attempt at welding just blew a huge hole…

Neil

Gas, stick, MIG or TIG? A lot of car bodywork is tacked together with MIG?

[the artfull-codgerParticipant @theartfull-codger]

Posted by john fletcher 1 on 22/08/2019 09:25:55:

Yes Wadkin did make or just supply a band saw blade brazer, for their large band saws, we had one at work. If a centre needed to be cut out in a large piece of wood, the machinists cut the blade, poked the blade through the hole, which had already been bored in the wood, then brazed the blade up again and carried on working. I silver solder blades as outful doger does above. Not always successful, but one can use up odd parts of blades that way.

Interesting John,your the only person that I've spoken to thats heard about the wadkin brazer,I picked mine up from rufforth autojumble near york years ago.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Just had a look for a bandsaw blade butt welder, lucky I was sitting down, £1600.00 seems a lot of money but I suppose it is aimed at professional use.

Mike

[Gary WoodingParticipant @garywooding25363]

I wrote ***THIS*** article for MEW about soldering bandsaw blades a few years ago.

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Not a good weekend for mechanical saws!! So far, one Naerok blade break, one Hegner similar, one Axminster blade came off the wheels – fingers crossed, the trusty old Kennedy carries on regardless. The query is re. the Axminster – there appears to be a 'tyre' only on the drive wheel – is this correct? also, that 'tyre' is spongy, very loose fitting and appears to have absorbed cutting fluid (WD40 for ali). Any comments, please, from members who are familiar with the Axminster or similar 4.5" saws?

TIA

rgds

Bill

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

That tyre is what drives the blade and prevents it slipping. Should not be using oil with that type of bandsaw I think.

[Gary WoodingParticipant @garywooding25363]

I have the Axminster 4.5" – it's about 25 years old. Neither wheel has a tyre. Here's a couple of photos of the drive wheel – one with the vertical table in place and one with it folded away for horizontal sawing.

[the artfull-codgerParticipant @theartfull-codger]

Posted by Gary Wooding on 23/08/2019 10:52:35:

I wrote ***THIS*** article for MEW about soldering bandsaw blades a few years ago.

Hi Gary, thanks for the details of your jig, as I said I made one years ago,I like yours better as you can awivel the clamps to apply a little tension to keep the blades tight together,also like the" angle grinding attatchment," even though I have the wadkin I'm going to make one like yours.

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Just an update on my bandsaw problem (or one of them, at least!) I ordered a replacement for the Naerok from Trucut (as recommended). Slight delivery delay but now received and fitted and working well (fingers crossed!) Its other problem, the breakup of the 'tyres' was solved by utilising an old leather belt, slitting it lengthwise to correct width and glueing it in place with inch length scarf ing at the join. Used one of the modern 'glue everything' clear variety with cyano at the joins. There are SOME advantages to getting old and FAT!!

Now to deal with the Axminster – tyre or no tyre??

rgds
Bill

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