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  • #262673
    David Colwill
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      @davidcolwill19261

      So my 4 jaw chuck doesn't have any legible numbers on the jaws. Up to now I have written them on in marker pen as required which is fine but they do rub off rather easily. I was thinking about getting the number stamps out but then thought do I go 1,2,3,4 or do I go A1,B1,A2,B2 or is this over complicating things.

      Any thoughts.

      David.

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      #12798
      David Colwill
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        @davidcolwill19261
        #262675
        Ian Parkin
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          @ianparkin39383

          Surely on a independant 4 jaw it does not matter which goes where

          #262676
          MW
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            @mw27036
            Posted by Ian Parkin on 24/10/2016 10:25:00:

            Surely on a independant 4 jaw it does not matter which goes where

            Indeed, they are all screw forms, they only stamp numbers on the order of the jaws on the face of the chuck so that you can remember which ones you have set up. not because it's important which goes where. 

            Michael W

            Edited By Michael Walters on 24/10/2016 10:49:38

            #262677
            Ian S C
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              @iansc

              You only need to number the jaws on a self centering chuck, whether 3 jaw or 4. I do tend to keep the jaws of my 4 jaw chucks in the same positions out of habit, take it out, turn it round, put it in, next jaw and so on.

              Ian S C

              #262680
              Tim Stevens
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                @timstevens64731

                You are likely to have difficulty with stamps, as the jaws will be hard. If you do decide to mark (unnecessarily) then perhaps etching ?

                Tim

                #262681
                David Colwill
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                  @davidcolwill19261

                  No but when adjusting jaws it is useful.

                  David.

                  #262682
                  David Colwill
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                    @davidcolwill19261

                    I was thinking of the chuck body.

                    David.

                    #262684
                    Tim Stevens
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                      @timstevens64731

                      You can mark the body (usually) with a series of 1, 2, 3, 4 centre-punch marks on the cylindrical surface.

                      Cheers, Tim

                      #262697
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133
                        Posted by David Colwill on 24/10/2016 10:40:28:

                        I was thinking of the chuck body.

                        .

                        That may indeed be useful. David ['though I hadn't contemplated it before]

                        Thinking about the 4-jaw centering process;

                        I might be tempted to mark the body N E W S [as in points of the compass].

                        MichaelG.

                         

                        P.S.

                        Solar astro-photographers may prefer the alternative sequence N W S E

                         

                        Edited By Michael Gilligan on 24/10/2016 12:31:20

                        #262699
                        Nick Hughes
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                          @nickhughes97026

                          Just mark 2 opposing positions with a center punch mark,. no need to mark all 4 positions, unless you really struggle to remember the last jaw you adjusted.

                          Nick

                          Edited By Nick Hughes on 24/10/2016 12:39:05

                          #262701
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            @neilwyatt
                            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 24/10/2016 12:30:34:

                            Posted by David Colwill on 24/10/2016 10:40:28:

                            I was thinking of the chuck body.

                            .

                            That may indeed be useful. David ['though I hadn't contemplated it before]

                            Thinking about the 4-jaw centering process;

                            I might be tempted to mark the body N E W S [as in points of the compass].

                            MichaelG.

                            P.S.

                            Solar astro-photographers may prefer the alternative sequence N W S E

                            Edited By Michael Gilligan on 24/10/2016 12:31:20

                            Lunar astrophotographers may disappear in a puff of logic trying to decide.

                            #262713
                            old Al
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                              @oldal

                              most 4 jaw chucks have a manufacturers label on the face of the chuck.

                              Use the jaws adjacent to the label if you are doing repetition type work. Maybe mark the bit of work with felt tip to coincide with the label, if it has to go back after another operation.

                              Yes you wear two jaws out quicker than the other two. And in my life time, i dont think i will notice.

                              #262718
                              David Colwill
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                                @davidcolwill19261
                                Posted by Nick Hughes on 24/10/2016 12:37:04:

                                Just mark 2 opposing positions with a center punch mark,. no need to mark all 4 positions, unless you really struggle to remember the last jaw you adjusted.

                                Nick

                                Edited By Nick Hughes on 24/10/2016 12:39:05

                                This is indeed why I was thinking of doing it. Also I had to return a job to the 4 jaw after a couple of weeks, The numbers I had written on in marker were not visible and I had no idea which jaws I had slackened off. If I had numbered them I would almost certainly slackened 1 and 2 or A1 and B1.

                                It does seem that I'm being a bit dim here but my mind doesn't work the same as most other peoples.

                                David.

                                #262728
                                Ady1
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                                  @ady1

                                  Nearly all chucks have a logo, which is 12 oclock

                                  Then I line up my jaws on the cross slide and enter the first one at 10 o'clock(smallest tooth) and engage it, insert the second at 7 o'clock and engage it, then the third at 5 and the 4th at two

                                  So you don't really need numbers, just the order of engagement in relation to the logo and the first jaw (smallest tooth one) progressing clockwise to the largest tooth size

                                  Works for 3 and 4 jaw chucks, you only really need to know where number 1 goes in relation to the logo and the rest fall into place

                                  simples!

                                  Edited By Ady1 on 24/10/2016 15:21:54

                                  #262746
                                  Neil Wyatt
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                                    @neilwyatt

                                    Should the numbers increase clockwise or anticlockwise? And should this be viewed from the headstock or the tailstock end?

                                    Perhaps 0-3 would work better than 1-4,? Why not ABCD. 00, 01, 10, 11 might be useful if it's a digital lathe?

                                    I'll get my coat^H^H^H^H workshop overalls…

                                    Neil

                                    #262768
                                    MW
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                                      @mw27036
                                      Posted by Neil Wyatt on 24/10/2016 16:45:32:

                                      Should the numbers increase clockwise or anticlockwise? And should this be viewed from the headstock or the tailstock end?

                                      Perhaps 0-3 would work better than 1-4,? Why not ABCD. 00, 01, 10, 11 might be useful if it's a digital lathe?

                                      I'll get my coat^H^H^H^H workshop overalls…

                                      Neil

                                      You could even have playstation markings with triangle, circle, x, square. I saw a kid with that tattoo once.party

                                      Michael W

                                      Edited By Michael Walters on 24/10/2016 17:34:34

                                      #262786
                                      phil burley
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                                        @philburley12227

                                        I was wondering why my chuck is marked 1234 , is it just so you know which you have moved then ?

                                        Phil

                                        #262798
                                        old Al
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                                          @oldal

                                          Now, just think. If a 4 jaw chuck was invented today, every jaw would have to be a different colour. wouldnt that make life easier

                                          #262839
                                          Ady1
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                                            @ady1

                                            Should the numbers increase clockwise or anticlockwise?

                                            tsk tsk tsk

                                            I should have said anticlockwise, wot a muppet

                                            As viewed from the tailstock end of the lathe

                                            ———————————————

                                            Nearly all chucks have a logo, which is 12 oclock

                                            Then I line up my jaws on the cross slide and enter the first one at 10 o'clock(smallest tooth) and engage it, insert the second at 7 o'clock and engage it, then the third at 5 and the 4th at two

                                            So you don't really need numbers, just the order of engagement in relation to the logo and the first jaw (smallest tooth one) progressing anticlockwise to the largest tooth size

                                            Works for 3 and 4 jaw chucks, you only really need to know where number 1 goes in relation to the logo and the rest fall into place

                                            simples! (if you're not a muppet)

                                            ————————————————–

                                            Edited By Ady1 on 25/10/2016 00:32:24

                                            #262841
                                            Hopper
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                                              @hopper

                                              Not one of my chucks has a distinguishable logo. (They may have done 80 years ago, who knows?) But I do like the idea of number stamping 1,2,3,4 on the body next to the jaws, just for keeping track of where the high spot is when truing up work. Sometimes I lose track of whether I am sneaking up on true, or have gone past it and the high spot has now moved to the other side "over centre". Chalk marks and pen marks all seem to get wiped off by greasy mitts during the process.

                                              #262854
                                              David Colwill
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                                                @davidcolwill19261

                                                Thanks to Michael and Hopper I'm not alone in thinking this is useful.

                                                I had to check and yes my chuck does have a logo. I think the reason I didn't think to use it is because when I am centering work in it, I am standing in line with it and can't see it ( it is a 12" chuck). I am going to mark it and I am going to use the A1, B1, A2, B2 which will pair the jaws in a way that my addled brain can deal with.

                                                David.

                                                #263002
                                                Perko7
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                                                  @perko7

                                                  Just pulled apart my 1920's Burnerd 4-jaw and found it has the jaws numbered as well as the slots. Makes a big difference to the ease of use, as after first cleaning i mixed up the jaws without realising it and couldn't understand why some were so stiff. Now i know, works a lot better now.smile

                                                  #264905
                                                  Paul Jarvis 2
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                                                    @pauljarvis2

                                                    My 4 jaw is simply numbered 1 2 3 4 in rotation, even numbers one pair of jaws odd numbers the other.

                                                    easy to remember when your in a hurry.

                                                    Paul

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