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    Alan Worland 1
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      Alan Worland 1
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        I thought it would be a good idea to colour (oxidise) my steam engines bronze and brass parts rather than trying to keep them polished.
        I pckled the parts in sulphuric acid to get them to an equal ‘brightness’ then hot water washed and submerged them in a solution of ferric nitrate for a couple of hours. I then washed them in hot water again and brushed all surfaces with a toothbrush and put them in a fresh mix of ferric nitrate overnight.
        The results are not quite what I had hoped for!
        I had hoped for a nice even ‘browness’ to the surfaces but they have come out a bit blotchy with different grades taking more or less of the process.
        What is the best way of achieving the colour I am after?
         
        Alan
         
        #71202
        Niloch
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          Sir,
          As I have just returned from my annual visit to the RA Summer Exhibition it would seem particularly apposite to compose a response to you query which, I hope, may be of assistance especially as there were some fine examples to be seen, not least, the emotive work of James Butler, RA and his Rainbow Division Memorial.
          I presume you will have spent some considerable time seeking answers on the web, perhaps, without too much success. You are impinging on the art world and I would respectfully suggest that you consult a foundry specialising in the casting and patination of bronze sculpture.
          This is one such foundry, this another and yet another , it is very possible you will have one in your locality.
          With regard to books, try Bronze Sculpture Casting and Patination: Mud, Fire, Metal by Steve Hurst. ISBN 0764321641 Regrettably I don’t regard it as cheap, not for my pocket at any rate.
           
          #71206
          Weldsol
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            I have used Liberon Tourmaline in the past and got good results
             
            Paul
            #71226
            John McNamara
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              Hi All
               
              I noticed this a while back
               
              Metal-colouring and bronzing
              Author Arthur Horsman Hiarns
               
              On the internet archive. (Not in copyright)
               
               
              Or a general search on “Metal” at the same site
               
              I am sure there are other Gems there for those that delve.
               
              Yep there are Gems….This should be a separate post.
               
              Searched Lathe:
               
              Searched Milling Machine:
               
              Great site
               
              Cheers
               
              John
               
               

              Edited By John McNamara on 02/07/2011 12:57:12

              Edited By John McNamara on 02/07/2011 13:10:45

              #71245
              Alan Worland 1
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                @alanworland1
                Thanks for the information guys – all very usefull stuff!
                I aborted the process I was trying (which I found on the net) as it was giving really poor results. The parts have now been re pickled and await my next trial, a product I found on ebay – a patination fluid, which if it does what it says on the tin will be great (similar to the Liberon product)
                Will keep you posted!
                 
                Alan
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                Alan Worland 1
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                  Well I received the patination fluid which is mixed at 10% with water and parts dipped for a max of 2 minutes then washed, dried for 6 hours.
                  All the bronze and brass parts went a dark brown colour which I then wax polished to a lustre.
                  They look now like they were made 15 years ago! and seems not to ‘scatch off’ under a finger nail – just what I was after and worth a go if you want the old bronze look!
                   
                  Alan
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