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    Trevorh
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      @trevorh

      I have 2 aluminium Billets 176 mm O.D by 150 mm long and I need to "slice" off a piece 25mm thick

      they are too big to use any of my parting tools

      they are too large a diameter to use my band saw

      Any idea's as I don't really want to spend my life facing off down to the correct width

      Thanks

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      #25814
      Trevorh
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        @trevorh

        Cutting problem

        #341616
        Journeyman
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          @journeyman

          Trevor, start on the lathe and put in a groove as deep as you can with a parting tool. You can then carry on with a hacksaw by hand or transfer it to the bandsaw using the groove as the starting point. You will probably have to come up with some ingenious way of holding it in the bandsaw vice. Unless of course you can't actually get a parting tool to the periphery, in which case I am out of ideas save perhaps a rear toolpost mounted parting tool. One of those sabre saws might work although getting a straight line might be difficult!

          John

          Edit: slightly misread the question re parting tool access?

          Edited By Journeyman on 15/02/2018 12:22:38

          #341617
          Emgee
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            @emgee

            Phone a friend who has a bigger saw, alternatively seek help from a small engineering firm.

            Emgee

            #341618
            Trevorh
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              @trevorh

              Hi John, I was thinking along the same lines, the only other option I am considering is if I can get a large dia slitting saw that I can put on my Milling Machine.

              Think its going to be a combination of all of them at the moment

              cheers

              #341619
              Trevorh
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                @trevorh

                Hi Emgee,

                wish I knew someone who has that kind of equipment

                #341621
                Journeyman
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                  @journeyman

                  Trevor, had another ideaidea How about using a wire saw fix one end somewhere behind the lathe bed, drape the saw wire over the billet, attach weight to loose end of wire, run lathe slowly. Might be worth a try the saws are cheap (see link).

                  John

                  #341635
                  peak4
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                    @peak4

                    Start off by any of the above methods as deep as you can go.

                    If you need to finish off by hand, rather than a hacksaw, which will have limited travel and never clear the swarf, use a length of bandsaw blade in a gardener's bow saw. The initial groove will guide the blade and help stop it twisting. Also  regularly rotate the work-piece and also swap it round left to right.

                    If lacking a spare length of bandsaw blade, I've even had success with a wood cutting blade in the bowsaw ( just pick one where the set is even, or if you have a pair of saw setting pliers, ensure it is to save the blade wandering

                    This way you get a long cutting stroke, which readily clears the swarf .

                    Bill

                    Edited By peak4 on 15/02/2018 14:56:35

                    Edited By peak4 on 15/02/2018 14:57:45

                    #341642
                    Neil Wyatt
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                      @neilwyatt
                      Posted by Journeyman on 15/02/2018 12:38:22:

                      Trevor, had another ideaidea How about using a wire saw fix one end somewhere behind the lathe bed, drape the saw wire over the billet, attach weight to loose end of wire, run lathe slowly. Might be worth a try the saws are cheap (see link).

                      John

                      You may have just solved a problem for folks who have been bemoaning the discontinuation of abrasaw blades.

                      Neil

                      #341644
                      Journeyman
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                        @journeyman

                        Neil, you can get Vitrex Tile Saw blades which are very similar to the old Abrafile blades but they are short so fit things like coping saw frames or piercing saw frames rather than a full size hacksaw.  These wire saws are much longer and more floppy!

                        John

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                        Edited By Journeyman on 15/02/2018 16:05:53

                        #341646
                        Philip Rowe
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                          @philiprowe13116

                          I always thought that these wire saws were only for use on wood, although on aluminium it might not be too bad. However reading the feedback from some of the purchasers it would appear that thef break easily. I'm just glad that I've still got a number of Abrafiles that I collected back in the dim and distant past.

                          Phil

                          #341653
                          Sam Longley 1
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                            @samlongley1

                            If you have a mitre saw or can hire one from a hire shop _ better than messing up your own one!!!!

                            –Make a channel shape out of plywood about 2 ft long so your hands are well clear. Clamp the billet in tightly with a G clamp across it. Put an aluminium cutting blade in a mitre saw & just cut into the billet bit by bit rotating it every so often. Do some cuts side by side so the blade does not jam. Then face it up in the lathe

                            Thinking laterally, If you know someone with a forge & have means of melting it–You could just melt it down & cast it into 1 inch billets!!!

                            #341659
                            David Colwill
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                              @davidcolwill19261

                              If you are anywhere near Nottingham they would fit in my bandsaw. Failing that there must be a workshop near you who would help for a few quid.

                              Regards.

                              David.

                              #341662
                              Trevorh
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                                @trevorh

                                Many thanks to all for the constructive suggestions

                                I will try them and as a last resort find a local eng co to help

                                Thanks again

                                #341693
                                vintagengineer
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                                  @vintagengineer

                                  Part it down to the maximum you can then bore the centre out .

                                  #341700
                                  John Reese
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                                    @johnreese12848

                                    A while ago I had to part off a piece from a 6" round. I used a parting tool (HSS) until I was afraid to go deeper. I left the part in the chuck and used a reciprocating saw (Sawzall) to finish the cut. I rotated the work occasionally so the saw blade was working on a fairly narrow edge. Too much blade engagement really slowed down the cut.

                                    #341916
                                    Ian S C
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                                      @iansc

                                      If your bandsaw is a 6" x 4" horizontal/vertical one, it will cut off a 7" bar. I have not tried aluminium, only steel, cut down a little over half way, rotate the bar keeping the blade in the slot, cut then repeat. If your saw is reasonably well set up you should not be too far off. For aluminium you want a coarse blade, and run at top speed, a bit of compressed air is helpful in both cooling and chip removal.

                                      Ian S C

                                      #341931
                                      Mike
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                                        @mike89748

                                        I'd go for Emgee's answer. Faced with cutting a short length of 6in aluminium bar into 1in slices, I took it to a small engineering shop on the local industrial estate. They let the apprentice do the job on a big power hacksaw, at 50p a cut. That cost me £3, which they let the apprentice keep as it wasn't worth raising a bill for such a small amount.

                                        #341933
                                        KWIL
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                                          @kwil

                                          +1 for a 6×4 bandsaw, worked for me on a 6" billet of aircraft grade aluminium allot.

                                          #342236
                                          Trevorh
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                                            @trevorh

                                            Hi

                                            Thank you for your comments and suggestions, I have parted off as much as I dare and have now transferred it to the band saw

                                            all going well

                                            next I hope to finish it with a modified coping saw – basically fitted a course hacksaw blade to the holder

                                            once done I can then return it to the lathe for facing and a light cut to true it up

                                            thanks again

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