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    DrDave
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      @drdave

      I was just flicking through MSC's latest sales "flier" when I spotted that they have Proban fireproof coveralls on offer. Which made me realise that the padded polyester mechanics overall that I wear in the colder months might not be such a good idea when I am silver soldering.

      What do other members of the Forum wear when they are using a big Propane torch?

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      DrDave
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        @drdave
        #282233
        Speedy Builder5
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          @speedybuilder5

          The only plus protection I use on larger jobs is a good set of "heatproof" gauntlet gloves. Mind you, I have several customised jumpers with holes in them.
          BobH

          #282235
          duncan webster 1
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            @duncanwebster1

            Cotton warehouse coat. We had a welder at work who insisted on wearing a shell suit. After one spectacular incident he was christened 'Bob the flambé-ed welder', and told if he wanted to carry on working for us to use the cotton overalls supplied

            #282236
            Neil Wyatt
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              @neilwyatt

              Cotton. Leather apron*

              Neil

              *Yes I'm a veggie, but I don't eat aprons.

              #282241
              DrDave
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                @drdave

                Thanks for the prompt replies: the cotton dust coat it is then, with a wooly jumper underneath in winter. I see that Cromwell's have leather aprons for £8.36, so I might nip out & get one of those (I am a carnivore, Neil, so no worries there).

                I use an old pair of Kevlar gloves that are good for this sort of work, but I have to stop Mrs Dave wearing them for gardening…

                PS: I am also aware that "Leather Apron" was the name given to Jack the Ripper before his capture!

                #282244
                norman valentine
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                  @normanvalentine78682

                  Jack the ripper was never caught!

                  #282245
                  John Hinkley
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                    @johnhinkley26699

                    WoW!

                    Hold the front page – Jack the Ripper's been caught! Who did he turn out to be? I think we deserve to know.

                    John "Scoop" Hinkley

                    #282250
                    DrDave
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                      @drdave
                      Posted by norman valentine on 03/02/2017 19:30:35:

                      Jack the ripper was never caught!

                      blush You got me bang to rights there!

                      #282253
                      Mike
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                        @mike89748

                        Back to reality: thick, pure cotton boiler suit for me. If you want further protection, cultivate a pal on an oil rig. I don't know how they fireproof their kit, but it works against ordinary hazards like welding sparks.

                        #282254
                        peak4
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                          @peak4
                          Posted by Mike on 03/02/2017 19:54:05:

                          Back to reality: thick, pure cotton boiler suit for me. If you want further protection, cultivate a pal on an oil rig. I don't know how they fireproof their kit, but it works against ordinary hazards like welding sparks.

                          Might well be made out of Nomex, which is rather good stuff, and also more tolerant of washing.

                          Regards

                          Bill

                          #282257
                          “Bill Hancox”
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                            @billhancox

                            I wear one of these for mig welding, grinding etc. If standing erect or sitting, I also wear the leather apron to protect the frontal aspects of my clothing and anatomy. **LINK**

                            The label indicates that they come from the far east so I would assume they are available for purchase in several countries, including the UK. I checked before buying and verified that all the meat had in fact been removed from the hide.

                            Bill

                            #282259
                            Mike Bondarczuk
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                              @mikebondarczuk27171

                              When our local Pirelli site was changing over to Prysmian they were throwing out all of the flame proof boiler suits, jackets and "bib'n'brace" systems with the old company logo and I had a friend who was working there and managed to obtain three complete sets of suits, which he got from the skip.

                              Great overalls though a tad warm in the summer but can work in them perfectly safely when welding or performing any other thermally hazardous activities.

                              Mike

                              #282267
                              Mike Poole
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                                @mikepoole82104

                                Anyone who would come into casual contact with welding had to wear cotton based overalls but the lads doing mig welding needed full leather:- apron,gloves, spats, amulets and shoulder covers, also an air fed welding helmet, hell on earth on a hot day and this was in a booth with full fume extraction and exhaust filtration. Eventually most of this was done by robots but the attrition on mig guns is severe even with auto torch cleaning and anti spatter fluid. If anyone thinks they can mig weld they should try one of those lads torches, they had everything turned up to 11.

                                Mike

                                Edited By Mike Poole on 03/02/2017 21:15:44

                                #282269
                                Mark P.
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                                  @markp

                                  Don’t you fireproof cotton overalls with alum?
                                  Mark P.

                                  #282282
                                  John Stevenson 1
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                                    @johnstevenson1

                                    I use this.

                                    Hagrids jerkin AKA as a REME tank drivers jacket from a previous life.

                                    Incidentally my daughter used to own one of Fangs puppies, a big stupid soft Neapolitan Mastiff called Ozzie.

                                    #282286
                                    Hopper
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                                      @hopper

                                      Probably just as important to have a small fire extinguisher and a fire blanket in the workshop if you are using a propane torch.

                                      #282300
                                      john swift 1
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                                        @johnswift1

                                        I guess it was about 1975 one of the old factory welders came to the training centre to show us how to use gas and stick welders

                                        his first question was "do you all have clean overalls ?"

                                        every one nodded

                                        then without a word , put an oily rag down and opened the oxygen on the oxyacetylene torch

                                        after a short time , the rag began to smoulder – message received by all

                                         

                                        John

                                         

                                         

                                        Edited By john swift 1 on 03/02/2017 23:16:28

                                        #282306
                                        vintagengineer
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                                          @vintagengineer

                                          A heavy leather apron will protect you against red hot steel for about 30 seconds. Proban overalls will last about 3 seconds if your lucky. Most Proban overalls have a fire rating to stop catching fire rather than protect you from burning yourself.

                                          A Proban Formula 1 race suit is rated at 60 seconds and a standard MSA suit is rated at 10 seconds! The theory is it gives you enough protection to get out of the car and run!

                                          The problem is what ever you wear might stop you burning but it could help cook you!

                                          #282315
                                          JA
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                                            @ja

                                            When I worked at a steel works the office was issued with two garments to protect anyone from splashed molten iron when visiting the blast furnaces. This was after the Scunthorpe explosion and everyone was well aware of the dangers. The garments were very heavy wool duffle jackets. They came with a short film showing iron being poured on to one. It charred but did not catch fire. By C……… they were warm.

                                            JA

                                            #282331
                                            Monoman
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                                              @monoman

                                              I can fully endorse JA's post. When I was working in aluminium smelting and refining woollem garments were known to give the best protection.

                                              Mono

                                              #282340
                                              Thor 🇳🇴
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                                                @thor

                                                I use cotton trousers and jacket with a wool jumper underneath, heatproof leather gloves and boots, and I do my silver soldering outdoors with the fire extinguisher close by.

                                                Thor

                                                #282342
                                                Mike
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                                                  @mike89748

                                                  On one very hot summer's day some time in the 1980s I was invited to watch the big electric furnace at work at what was the United Engineering Steels plant at Rotherham. I was somewhat surprised to be issued with heavy boots, thick woollen trousers and a heavy donkey jacket, as well as a hard hat and visor, but I was glad of the protection as I watched many tons of liquid steel being poured and rolled into bars. The operation was computer driven, but the over-ride button was held by a steel maker well over his retiring age who stood by the furnace mouth, occasionally lobbing in lumps of aluminium, which was used as flux. I think I lost more sweat that day than I ever have before or since, but it was a great experience.

                                                  #282343
                                                  mechman48
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                                                    @mechman48

                                                    I don't have any propane equipment in my workshop per se, plumbers Mapp gas torch is all… at the mo'. what I use for ppe protection is a cotton warehouse coat & heavy cotton work trousers/ cargo pants for general wear, plus a pair of safety toe capped trainers; for the workshop a couple of small powder extinguishers & a fire blanket on the wall.

                                                    George.

                                                    #282352
                                                    nigel jones 5
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                                                      @nigeljones5

                                                      Do you actually need ppe for silver soldering (assuming you are well ventilated)? I use oxy acetylene to silver solder most days and ppe would be cumbersome and quite frankly not needed. There are no sparks to set fire to my clothes so as long as I point the hot firey end in the right direction there is no risk to person. I never use the oxy gear if there is anyone else in the workshop or even likely to enter as this is where distraction lies and error ensues. I often work in shorts and tee shirt as I have severe psoriasis with no ill effect to date. Otherwise I do regularly wear thick leather gauntlets, leather apron etc for welding and ear defenders.

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