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12 April 2016 at 17:21 #234324
Lambton
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@lambton
I received this reply to my advert for a Myford ML tailstock

It is from James Carter carter17.james@aol.co.uk

I am sure it is an attempted scam.

Hello,

I am okay with the Terms and Condition of sale as seen on the advert including Your Final asking Price as Stated.

I have gone through the content of the advert once again am very satisfy. Payment will be made out via a Cheque which will be issue to you for the payment and pick up will be arrange after the Cheque is Fully Cleared by your Bank.

I will not be able to come over to view it because I'm always busy at work but i believe that all the details of the advert are right and will want update about the Service History. You don't have to worry yourself about the shipment, My Shipper will take care of pick up as soon as you confirm the payment is Cleared by your Bank. let me know if there is any other miscellaneous payment like,the tax charges, etc that will be added to it.

Transportation and maintenance cost will be added to the Total amount that will be issued on the Cheque. it will be used By My shipper who will be coming for the Pick Up at your location after your bank confirms cash available for use.My shipper is the one that will act on my behalf regards the documentation of the change of ownership so any signature will be sign by my Local Removal Collector for the pick up and other all necessary detail information will be fill by shipper so don't worry yourself about the change of ownership documentation will be taken care by my Removal.

Get Back to me with information listed below in order to make out the Cheque and payment will be issued and send from Kent via first class Mail

Name to Be Write on The Cheque

Address To Send the Cheque To so you receive and get it Deposited in your bank.

Your Phone Numbers

Your Total Amount.
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12 April 2016 at 17:21 #24491
Lambton
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@lambton
12 April 2016 at 17:37 #234327
John Rudd
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@johnrudd16576
The English grammar is apalling….for starters….

The style in which it is written sounds like he is buying the crown jewels not a tailstock…..

My advice would be to steer clear…..

He is asking for to much information…..Bank account details, your home address, home phone number…too much for my liking

Edited By John Rudd on 12/04/2016 17:39:35

Edited By John Rudd on 12/04/2016 18:01:15
12 April 2016 at 17:45 #234328
NJH
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@njh
I agree that the way it is written sounds more than a bit dodgy but he says pick up will be made by his courier once his cheque has been cleared in your bank. So he will have your name, address, bank and account number but lots of folk will have that and any legit person would need that info. Anyone know – What is the likely scam?

(I must say that I too would be a bit doubtful)

Norman

Edited By NJH on 12/04/2016 17:48:19
12 April 2016 at 18:01 #234329
Michael Gilligan
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@michaelgilligan61133
A quick Google search on "carter17.james" turned-up this page:

https://www.facebook.com/Sell-My-Wedding-144596528925727/

… Maybe just a man with diverse interests.

MichaelG.
12 April 2016 at 18:03 #234330
Fatgadgi
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@fatgadgi
Could be the old cheque clearing scam.

Basically you bank will clear the cheque, but the transaction can be reversed at a later date when the cheque goes back to the issuing bank if there is a problem.

Plenty of time for a tricky transaction between the two.

And, I have heard the trick where the cheque come made out for more than agreed – you are either asked to refund the difference or perhaps they could ask you to ship it for them.

Whatever, the words sound as if you should decline, although I am not an expert (and don't scam people too often )

Good luck – Will
12 April 2016 at 18:06 #234331
Tony Pratt 1
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@tonypratt1
This is 100% a scam, this type of thing is all over the net. 'Will' has about covered it.

Tony
12 April 2016 at 18:25 #234333
NJH
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@njh
So in cases like these ( apart from ignoring them ! ) is a bankers draft a safe option?

N
12 April 2016 at 18:28 #234334
Bazyle
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@bazyle
You could tell him you have a free shipping voucher which you can use if he gives you his address by Thursday.

Then pass all detalsl to local police.
12 April 2016 at 18:31 #234336
Roger Williams 2
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@rogerwilliams2
Hello all, had 2 like this last month, I just told them to **** off. ( buzz).
12 April 2016 at 18:34 #234337
Tony Pratt 1
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@tonypratt1
Posted by NJH on 12/04/2016 18:25:30:

So in cases like these ( apart from ignoring them ! ) is a bankers draft a safe option?

N

Safe option for what? This is a scam & I think a bankers draft can be forged. In genuine cases PayPal can work but even then you can get ripped off

Tony
12 April 2016 at 18:38 #234339
John Rudd
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@johnrudd16576
I think you ought to report this to the Police……potential fraud, even if no actual crime has been committed
12 April 2016 at 18:54 #234343
NJH
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@njh
Sorry Tony I agree this is a scam – my query is, when selling "stuff", what method is "safe"? ( or maybe what is the safest method?)

Norman
12 April 2016 at 19:13 #234346
Colin Heseltine
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@colinheseltine48622
If I read it correctly he says that transportation and maintenance costs will be added to cheque, and this will be used by his transportation company when he collects. To my mind he expects you to pay for the transport in cash. So definitely a NO NO NO.

Colin
12 April 2016 at 19:22 #234350
speelwerk
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@speelwerk
If he is serious he can make a direct payment into vendors bankaccount. Niko.
12 April 2016 at 19:30 #234355
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
A very similar email was posted here last year, it is almost certainly a scam, avoid!

Neil
12 April 2016 at 22:18 #234382
Bazyle
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@bazyle
Lambton, as you will not be going through with this buyer I have a friend who is interested. Jimmy Crowbar would like your full address so he can come and get the item and please provide times when you will be out at work or at the shops so he can pick the right time. I believe he is reputable as he tells me he has several times been a guest of Her Majesty.
12 April 2016 at 23:28 #234392
stevetee
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@stevetee
It's a classic scam, the cheque will clear , only to be returned weeks later as it is a forgery. The money that was once credited into your bank will be removed from your bank account.

Sadly we now live in a world where people don't go and earn a living, they get up and go and scam people. Hello sah , this is Micheal fom Macrosoft Vindows………..
13 April 2016 at 01:27 #234400
Enough!
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@enough
Posted by John Rudd on 12/04/2016 17:37:28:

The English grammar is apalling….for starters….

It wasn't the grammar per se that struck me but rather that the respondent's first language doesn't appear to be English. Sounds more oriental to me (the sort of prose you get from an eBay vendor located in China or Hong Kong). As such it doesn't really square with the "James Carter".

I'd run a mile.
13 April 2016 at 08:56 #234415
Howi
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@howi
A very common scam unfortunately, I thinking is outside eBay rules so no comeback, PayPal safest. I have had this sort of scam, claim to be overseas hence delivery company.

As judge Judy says if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck.report to eBayÂ
13 April 2016 at 09:14 #234419
MalcB
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@malcb52554
Thats a 100% scam.

Send the one liner " cash on collection only " and you will received no further contact.

I have had similar for my lathe i am selling. Unfortunately Paypal is NOT 100% safe for all sellers. Buyers have 180 days to lodge a claim and this has been part of a scams also.

Payment is made. Goods are collected. Claim then goes in say goods not received. Monies refunded.

Be careful out there, they are after something for nothing.
13 April 2016 at 09:44 #234430
MW
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@mw27036
Only trade outside of ebay if you have good reasons to trust them, none of which are presented here.

Michael W
13 April 2016 at 10:00 #234436
Lambton
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@lambton
Gentlemen,

Many thanks for all your kind posts agreeing that this is a typical scam.

The reason I raised the matter here is because my advert was placed on this forum and not on eBay. I hope it serves as a warning to all the trusting people who answer adverts in good faith on this or similar forum sites.

Scammers are everywhere and rely on honest trusting persons to fall into their traps.

I have not replied to the scammer in any way.
13 April 2016 at 10:37 #234445
Circlip
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@circlip
The English grammar is apalling….for starters….

"Appalling"

Sadly, bad spelling is no longer an indicator. Bad spelling and grammar started to appear with the advent of the Rubik cube and has degenerated ever since.

Regards Ian.
13 April 2016 at 11:39 #234455
Ketan Swali
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@ketanswali79440
Posted by NJH on 12/04/2016 18:54:05:

Sorry Tony I agree this is a scam – my query is, when selling "stuff", what method is "safe"? ( or maybe what is the safest method?)

Norman

BACS safest in our books for Lambton type forum situation if both parties are based in the U.K., and provided there is an element of trust between the seller and buyer. This replaces the bankers draft related concerns. Else cash on collection is king.

Cheques have recourse between two to three weeks. In theory, cleared funds should be within 14 days, if cheques issued by one of our well known high street banks. In real life it is another story. We have stopped accepted cheques from new customers.

Most scams we have come across have been from such persons wishing to pay by PayPal. I don't know if the situation has changed within the last few years since we stopped accepting this payment method.

Bandersnatch: The scam is more likely to be of Nigerian type origin, which has this particular grammar style. Oriental – Chinese or Hong Kong style is a different.

Ketan at ARC.
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