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    David Wasson
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      @davidwasson11489

      I have recently added a page to my website.This page was prompted by folks that seemed to always be asking, "where can I buy this or that connector". The purpose here is to show that it is not really that hard to make connectors and fittings yourself. (I rather enjoy it!) These types of connectors can always be made in much less time than it takes to order them and wait for them to arrive. Also, the connectors and fitting you make yourself can be customized in any way you can imagine.

      For a PDF copy of my Union Specification, scroll tom the bottom of the page and right click on the large button.

      Here's the link to the page:

      https://supersimplex.yolasite.com/How-to-Make-A-Cone-Union.php

      Here's a photo of some of the unions and connectors I have made using the techniques described on my website.

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      Edited By David Wasson on 09/05/2018 11:01:16

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      David Wasson
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        #353347
        Speedy Builder5
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          @speedybuilder5

          Nice bit of pipework, did you play the trumpet as a lad ?

          #353355
          David Wasson
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            @davidwasson11489

            No, I play euphonium and saxophone.

            David

            #353361
            Thor 🇳🇴
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              @thor

              Hi David,

              As Speedy Builder said, nice pipework, and thanks for sharing.

              Thor

              #353362
              Hopper
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                @hopper

                Very nice, once again.

                Did you make your own globe valves and gauge glass fittings etc as well?

                #353374
                David Wasson
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                  @davidwasson11489

                  Hi Thor and Hopper,

                  Thanks so much!

                  I did not make the globe valves in the above photo. They are from PM Research. I did make all of the other fittings and connectors.

                  On the back head of my boiler, I also made all of the fittings including both water gauges and all of the hand wheel valves. The spindles for the hand wheels I made on my little Unimat lathe! There are photos of the back head on my website.

                  David

                  #353412
                  Mick B1
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                    @mickb1

                    I've made a few batches of pipe unions for a steam railway where I do volunteer machining. Mostly these are for lubricator distribution systems and airpumps. The 60 degree included cone and seat make sense, but I've found a number of different standards in use, sometimes on the same loco – there are 90 degree, 30 degree and flat-faced 'top hats' as well. Lots of the locos have had multiple operators, often in different countries, and very long histories of repairs and modifications. It's difficult to depart from what you're given to duplicate, because you don't always know the risks you might incur by making the assembly longer or shorter, so attempts to standardise or simplify tend to be sporadic and incomplete.

                    It does seem to make sense to reduce the cone included taper 1 degree less than the seat, and take the cone just short of a feather-edge to the centre bore – the seat then compresses the cone as the nut's tightened, for a good seal. 30 degrees inc. and a 29 degree cone works best where there's room. LG2 also has a bit more maleability than CZ121 brass.

                    Your pipework's a helluva lot nicer than some of it on the railway laugh – but then they get to cover a lot of it with casings so passengers and bystanders don't see it.

                    Edited By Mick B1 on 09/05/2018 20:51:47

                    #353420
                    David Wasson
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                      @davidwasson11489

                      Hi Mick,

                      Yes, there are many standards, one you missed is to have the cone with a spherical end that fits against the female cone seat. All of these systems work well, and a beginner, needs to start somewhere. The 60 degree cone and seat is the most simple and easiest way to get started. Mine are all done this way and none leak.

                      My "how to" is for the beginner that has very little idea of what a cone union is. It is also for the the person asking "where can I purchase this or that connector or union". I hope to inspire these folks and let them know that it is not difficult to make your own. There is no attempt at making a standard, that would be impossible!

                      Thank you for the compliments on my pipe work. This photo is actually looking at the underside of the cab of my locomotive. Most of this pipe work is hidden.

                      David

                      #353429
                      John Rudd
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                        @johnrudd16576

                        I clicked the "like" button…..well would have if there was one….

                        Great write up many thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

                        Pipework looks great too, as others have said…yes

                        #353445
                        David Wasson
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                          @davidwasson11489

                          Thank you, John! I'm glad to share.

                          David

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