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    Len Morris 2
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      Hi,

      My M300 has a taper turning attachment but I'm missing the lock bar and bed clamp to make it work. All easy enough to make but knowledge of the original bar length would be very helpful.

      Len

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      Len Morris 2
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        #540579
        DC31k
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          If no-one comes up with measurements for you, do you have a manual for it?

          There is one here:

          http://www.lkctraining.co.uk/S2-CentreLathe/M300%20manual.pdf

          and the same one here:

          http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=13849

          Print out the exploded isometric drawing of the TT attachment and scale off the size of the parts you do not have using one of the parts you do have as a reference.

          There is a good photo of one here that you can use for scaling:

          https://www.traceymachinery.co.uk/product-page/harrison-m300-taper-turning-attachment

          Edited By DC31k on 19/04/2021 20:10:41

          #540649
          Len Morris 2
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            @lenmorris2

            Thanks for the directions. Just shows a good picture is worth a thousand words.

            Len

            #540677
            Clive Foster
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              Len

              I'm not sure that the lock bar and bed clamp can be made sufficiently accurately for proper functioning by scaling from drawings or photographs.

              Easy, shake free, movement of the dovetail slides is essential if this type of taper turning attachment is to work well. Any misalignment of the lock bar will interfere with free movement. It doesn't take much to make results somewhat unpredictable.

              SouthBend used to assemble their version on the machine by fitting the lock bar to the attachment first and passing the free end though and oversize hole in the bed bracket. The hole was then filled in situ with white metal or babbit to cast the bar in place ensuring perfect alignment once everything had cooled down.

              Not exactly practical in the home workshop but you will need to make provision for similarly precise, fine adjustment on your version. Small shifts in offset and rotation in both horizontal and vertical axes will need to be handled. Perhaps a shake free ball joint on a bracket with clamp adjustment both ways?

              Yet another example of something relatively simple when you have everything worked out on original drawings turning into a total PIA when you have to get things just so with only the host machine to work from.

              Clive

              #540848
              Len Morris 2
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                @lenmorris2

                Hi Clive,

                I think you might be a little confused. When the taper attachment is being used, the bar, bed clamp, and the dove tailed base are locked solid. None of these bits have to move or slide in operation. Up to now I've been using a simple piece of angle iron and 2 G clamps when setting up with excellent machining results! Just thought it would be nice to have a more engineered solution.

                Len

                #540954
                PeteL
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                  Len

                  The bar on my machine is 19mm diameter x 320mm long.

                  Hope that helps.

                  Pete

                  #540973
                  Len Morris 2
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                    @lenmorris2

                    Thanks for that Pete, helps a lot. Just the information I was looking for. A length of silver steel will fit the bill perfectly.

                    Just for interest, scaling up a picture from an auction site gave me 18mm by 311mm.

                    Good to work from the original dimensions in case I ever find an original Harrison clamp. I doubt it will be from an auction site though. The complete set up, (including the telescoping cross slide screw) was listed for an eye watering £1000!

                    Len.

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