Windows 10 again

[Nathan SharpeParticipant @nathansharpe19746]

Thank you all for your efforts. Brian, I'll try those two surge protectors.,Danny, I think your suggestion is the only positive method if you know a storm is coming. SOD, I'm in the tropical bit of North Wales about 300 mtrs altitude and not more than a mile from the Zip World attraction. That unit from RS might not be too expensive when you consider the replacement costs for phones and PC. Hugh, thank you,I'll PM my details . Nathan

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

I was altering the electronic timer on my central heating. There was a huge flash and bank and the timer disintegrated around my finger!. Bits flew everywhere! There had been a lightning strike about 20 yards from my house. Very scarey.

Andrew.

[egaParticipant @ega]

Question from an electrical ignoramus:

am I right in thinking that none of the above applies to a fibre phone connection eg Virgin?

[JourneymanParticipant @journeyman]

Posted by ega on 01/12/2018 11:01:15:

am I right in thinking that none of the above applies to a fibre phone connection eg Virgin?

Afraid not! The connection to the house from the Virgin cabinet is still in copper, two parts a co-axial cable for the TV/broadband and a standard telephone cable, the two cables are bonded together into a figure of 8 type which comes up the street to the house. Don't know about BT fibre to the premises though,

John

Edit: Typo

Edited By Journeyman on 01/12/2018 14:10:16

[egaParticipant @ega]

Posted by Journeyman on 01/12/2018 14:02:28:

Posted by ega on 01/12/2018 11:01:15:

am I right in thinking that none of the above applies to a fibre phone connection eg Virgin?

Afraid not! The connection to the house from the Virgin cabinet is still in copper, two parts a co-axial cable for the TV/broadband and a standard telephone cable, the two cables are bonded together into a figure of 8 type which comes up the street to the house. Don't know about BT fibre to the premises though,

Thanks for this, Journeyman.

My phone was knocked out during a storm some years ago. When I rang the insurance company they seemed very sceptical about the idea that lightning was the cause but I never pursued a claim as the excess was more than the cost of repair/replacement.

Edited By ega on 02/12/2018 10:12:17

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Nathan Sharpe on 01/12/2018 10:52:31:

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SOD, I'm in the tropical bit of North Wales about 300 mtrs altitude …

That might explain it, apart from the tropical bit. (I've been to Bangor!) The height and general openness of that part of Wales mean that any cross-country overhead wiring is likely to attract lighting. Hill walkers are more likely to get zapped than ordinary folk for the same reason.

I wonder if population density is against you too. I've a notion that a surge effecting 1000 households would be much reduced by their collective protections compared with the same surge reaching a hamlet of 10 homes.

Dave

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 02/12/2018 10:41:58:

I wonder if population density is against you too. I've a notion that a surge effecting 1000 households would be much reduced by their collective protections compared with the same surge reaching a hamlet of 10 homes.

Dave

Also, if you have a density of 0 house per km2 (say) com[pared with 1000, then if a house gets hit its 100 time more likely to be you.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 02/12/2018 12:41:02:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 02/12/2018 10:41:58:

I wonder if population density is against you too. I've a notion that a surge effecting 1000 households would be much reduced by their collective protections compared with the same surge reaching a hamlet of 10 homes.

Dave

Also, if you have a density of 0 house per km2 (say) com[pared with 1000, then if a house gets hit its 100 time more likely to be you.

It's not often I get the chance to correct Neil's maths, but with zero houses shouldn't the answer be infinity more times more likely?

90% of statistics are wrong…

Dave

PS. More likely Neil's mistake is a typo, not his maths. His most recent MEW editorial has a 'their/there' mix-up and I'd bet big money he knows the difference. It's amazing what the eye skates over whilst proof-reading!

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 02/12/2018 14:48:55:

Grrr.

Well with 1 house, if a house gets hit its inevitable it will be yours.

I'm not sure the situation of 1 house being hit when there are zero houses applies

How do you console a pedant?

"There, their, they're…"

Neil

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 02/12/2018 15:36:14:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 02/12/2018 14:48:55:

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I'm not sure the situation of 1 house being hit when there are zero houses applies

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This deserves a Gold Star for going off-topic. We've got from a perfectly sensible Windows 10 question to discussing the probability of zero houses per sq km being struck by lightning. Not only is it nonsense in itself but our answers differ by the maximum amount possible. Neil thinks the probability is zero, I think it is infinity.

Model Engineering is safe in our hands…

Dave

[HughEParticipant @hughe]

Nathan, got your message. Will be contact when I get home tomorrow.

If you are a golfer then get the 1 iron out a wave it around during the storm, even God can't hit a 1 iron.

Used to watch great thunderstorms in your area when staying on my uncles farm on Anglesey. Could stay up all night watching the lighting.

Hugh

[HughEParticipant @hughe]

For anybody suffering the same problem with thunder storms and phone lines check this link.

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