Unrecognised Acronym on ebay listings ‘UKPL’

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Mick Charity on 19/11/2018 01:47:09:

It would answer the question if you were to make a purchase off eBay AND the invoice shipped with the goods also showed this VAT number.

There is a very large tax avoidance scheme currently in operation by Chinese suppliers, mainly focused on eBay & Amazon. I just about basically understand it but not in a way that I could re-explain it, if that makes sense.

UKPL might stand for UK Partner Larger, & it might be there to satisfy either Ebay or HMRC concerns?

A quick Google, this might explain the situation :

https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/4/17796118/amazon-ebay-chinese-sellers-tax-fraud-haven

https://www.ft.com/content/8fcf026e-38e0-11e8-8b98-2f31af407cc8 (Whoops, paywall)

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Thanks for that, Mick

MichaelG.

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

I asked a question:

你在产品概述中提到UKPL。请问UKPL是什么意思？

and I have an answer:

亲爱的顾客您好
通过询问我们产品的开发人员，我们确认了UKPL没有任何意义。由于我们的失误使得我们产品的标题出现了错误，谢谢您为我们指正，非常感谢。

[FMESParticipant @fmes]

Translation

Hello, dear customer. By asking the developers of our products, we confirmed that UKPL doesn't make any sense. As our mistake made the title of our product wrong, thank you for pointing out for us, thank you very much.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Thanks, both

MichaelG.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

恭喜您是第100位客户，询问UKPL的含义是什么？你赢了£1,000,000美元。请将您的银行详情发送给我们。

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

邪恶的笑脸

MichaelG.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/11/2018 12:35:11:

恭喜您是第100位客户，询问UKPL的含义是什么？你赢了£1,000,000美元。请将您的银行详情发送给我们。

I thought it might be the usual bunch of young women wanting to meet me.😉

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 18/11/2018 09:54:41:

I have been looking at metal lens-hoods, as a convenient source of threaded tube

This one, for example, has 52mm male, and 58mm female threads:

**LINK**

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Screw-Mount-52mm-Standard-Metal-Lens-Hood-for-Nikon-Black-UKPL/273053252049

So far, so good … But could someone please decipher 'UKPL'

[ it features on quite a few ebay listings, not just that one ]

AcronymFinder suggests : United Kingdom Paintball League

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MichaelG.

I cannot help decoding the acronym after reading this thread I did learn a little bit about how these Chinese sellers operate.

Against my better judgement I still continue to purchase some items from sellers I do not trust. I have been bitten a couple of times so now only buy if I am prepared to not get the item or not use it if it arrives. One only has to look at the negative feedback of this one seller that Michael has linked to (42 negative in the last month alone!) to know that most of the eBay listing is plain lies. There must be thousands of eBay sellers that list items as 'UK stock' but say their location is 'UK', 'Liverpool', 'Essex' etc but then show an unreadable business in China. I presume there must be Chinese owned 'fulfilment' centres in various locations in the UK which actually make up the shipments.

Like most things in life, eBay is not what it was, whilst eBay purport to have strict rules and regulations they certainly do not impose them, if anything they err on the side of the dodgy sellers rather than the man in the street.

Whinge over

Ian P

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Ian P on 19/11/2018 15:59:07:

. I presume there must be Chinese owned 'fulfilment' centres in various locations in the UK which actually make up the shipments.

Whether this supplier uses one I know not, but HMRC has clamped down as it appears some companies were not paying their VAT bills, but instead closing down and reappearing under a new name.

Under new rules the fulfilment houses pass the VAT direct to HMRC.

That's my understanding, I may be wrong…

I confess I buy imported gewgaws from eBay, but only if I can wait for it and the cost is small enough it doesn't matter if it never arrives or is junk. Strangely the electronics and 3D printer bits seem to be OK, but I've had 'joke value only' when buying cheap drills or cutters.

Neil

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Ian P on 19/11/2018 15:59:07:

… One only has to look at the negative feedback of this one seller that Michael has linked to (42 negative in the last month alone!) to know that most of the eBay listing is plain lies. …

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Yes, 42 negative in the last month looks bad … but still we see this: **LINK**

https://www.topratedseller.com/ebay/time.ing

MichaelG.

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/11/2018 12:35:11:

恭喜您是第100位客户，询问UKPL的含义是什么？你赢了£1,000,000美元。请将您的银行详情发送给我们。

It's not come out quite right, Neil. Among other infelicities, "£1,000,000美元" reads "£1000 American dollars".

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

A lot of this is all Greek to me

Which says a lot about my linguistic abilities!

Howard

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

I meant "£1,000,000美元" reads "£1,000,000 American dollars".

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Bill Phinn on 19/11/2018 17:59:59:

I meant "£1,000,000美元" reads "£1,000,000 American dollars".

It's supposed to…

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