Looking for info on current EMCO lathes, specifically Emcomat 14D

[Joseph Noci 1Participant @josephnoci1]

Hi to everyone.

I am sort of on the brink ( well, next year early..) of procuring an Emcomat 14D lathe, the current day successor to the Maximat Super 11CD. Although I have the user manual, the full specs, etc, I have been unable to find an owner or user, or even a review on the lathe. I have tried on the various forums and Hobby sites, inc the Yahoo Emco group, even tried Emco Austria, South Africa, and UK for a referral to to perhaps an 'industry' owner – they won't tell me…Makes me wonder if any of these were ever sold at all! I also tried Emco USA – they do not even bother responding to the request – This I all did mid to end November, so they it should still have been pre-holiday mode…

Is there perhaps anyone here who has or knows someone who has such a lathe?

Regards

Joe

Swakopmund

[Joseph Noci 1Participant @josephnoci1]

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Tried "Wabeco" yet, seem to be Emco's successor for home lathes.

Regards Ian.

[Joseph Noci 1Participant @josephnoci1]

Thanks Ian. I think the Wabeco is handled by Pro Machine tools? They do not do that size Emco machine at all it seems – kind of up to the Emco Compact-8 or so. The 14D is the successor to the older Emco Super 11CD, which was a lathe larger than the Emco Maximat V10, which in turn was the same as or slightly larger than a Myford Super 7. So the 14D is more in the light industrial size I suppose.

Regards

joe

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

There was a member here a few years ago who had one of the larger EMCO machines in the red/black colours so would have been about the size you are thinking of. I'll see if I can find his posts.

J

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

It was red and black but a 17S, see this album. Also if you click "oh chuff's" name you should be able to send them a message from their profile page

[Joseph Noci 1Participant @josephnoci1]

Thanks for that Jason. I will make contact with the fellow – maybe he can direct me further.

Unfortunately, the 17 series differs quite a bit from the 14 series – the 17 still has a geared headstock, although with VFD motor drive, while the 14 has no headstock gearing, but is direct drive from the 3phase VFD motor.

To compensate for the lack of gearing the 14 is fitted with a 7KW motor, while the 17 has a 2.5KW motor. This since at low RPM the motor torque falls, so a much larger motor is needed, as the torque cannot be 'geared up' on the 14..

It is really this aspect that I was hoping someone with relevant experience could comment on – as to the concept being successful or so-so..

Thanks Jason.

Regards

Joe

[LathejackParticipant @lathejack]

I haven't come across an Emco 14D, so can't offer any help with your request. But just out of possible interest I remember many years ago drooling over the Maximat Super 11 lathes and almost bought one myself. These were the earlier green models with the square type geared headstock and screw cutting gearbox, before Emco put the curved covers on a lot of their later red and black range.

Recently I was browsing the Grizzly Machine Tools site from the USA. While looking at their current Far Eastern made South Bend branded 'Heavy 10' model I noticed it looked familiar. I then realised it was a copy of the old Emco Maximat Super 11.

The new Grizzly South Bend Heavy 10 is pretty much just the same as the original Emco version, same type bed casting, geared headstock, screwcutting gearbox, complete carraige assembly and topslide and tee slotted crosslide. Apart from cosmetic differences and a Camlock mechanism on the tailstock the major other difference is the Taiwanese or Chinese South Bend version uses a triple V bedway, with two V's guiding the saddle, a typical design feature of the old original South Bend lathes.

I seem to remember that the Emco lathes typically used a rather small V for the tailstock, and a larger buttress type single V for the saddle.

Anyway, I just found it interesting that a Taiwanese or Chinese copy of one of the larger Emco lathes was still being produced. I have only come across copies of Emco's smaller machines before, as well as the FB2 mill, incuding the red and black copies that were badged as Emco.

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