did u see

[clogsParticipant @clogs]

[clogsParticipant @clogs]

todays Daily Mail features Harry Powells, the Duchess of Buccleuch train…..

estimate at auction £200,000……

out of this world workmanship…..

take my hat off to u train makers, ur all outsatnding……

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

You can read it here

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, very nice, but it is a shame they can't get the description right. This is a Locomotive not a train. A train consists of rolling stock drawn by a locomotive.

Regards Nick.

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

"Attention to detail was such that it was fitted with a copper boiler". Really, did the prototype have a copper boiler?

Ian S C

[John HaineParticipant @johnhaine32865]

Sorry, I just can't bring myself to open a Daily Mail link…

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Interesting that in 2012 DM said it may fetch £100,000 here

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Posted by JasonB on 25/01/2019 10:09:36:

Interesting that in 2012 DM said it may fetch £100,000 here

Not much of a return on 18,000 hours' work. That's about 9 years full-time.

[Clive IndiaParticipant @cliveindia]

Prices there have not been great of late – in fact significantly lower than previous. People seem to be put off by the charges and the VAT – 30% or so in total. Many models sold there have no boiler certification and unless you want to display in your dining room as a conversation piece, it is not attractive.

Nice model though

 

Edited By Clive India on 25/01/2019 16:23:47

[egaParticipant @ega]

Is it correct to call it "crimson"?

[clogsParticipant @clogs]

sorry I said train, doting I's an all that…….u have to make allowences to the uneducated…….not my thing really….

I always fancied 1/3 scale a scale steam lorry that I could drive tho……

speaking of Loco's whats the chance of changing the lead photo on the forum's fist page, more bloody trains…….

hahaha……..

[Brian HParticipant @brianh50089]

Posted by ega on 25/01/2019 14:17:00:

Is it correct to call it "crimson"?

I believe that the correct description of Midland Red is Crimson Lake.

Brian

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Posted by Brian H on 25/01/2019 17:54:37:

I believe that the correct description of Midland Red is Crimson Lake.

Brian

Midland Red is a bus company .

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Only 10 years? There's many projects in sheds that's taken that and more before they are finished if ever

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Even at the estimated price for models of this standard it doesn’t reflect the work content if a realistic hourly rate was paid for a mans skill. I know most people build for their own pleasure but anyone who buys a well made model usually gets a very good bargain indeed. The same goes for most car and bike restorations and custom built bikes and cars, you are often lucky to cover your costs and forget about any reward for your labour.

Mike

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Only 10 years? Seems rather faster than most 7 1/4" gauge locos!

The comments are a mine of misinformation too: "Then there is the expensive machinery for machining the parts. Huge lathes, milling machines etc. The kinds of big machines where each would occupy most of the average domestic garage and probably require a 3 phase electricity supply. So forget about building such a locomotive in the average 7¿ x 5¿ garden shed lol."

I suppose it is the Daily Fail…

Neil

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story!

Captain Howey ruined the decoration in his bungalow at New Romney (Red Tiles ) by firing up a 10 1/4 inch Royal Scot in the lounge, while his wife was away. Hopefully, the paint had dried by the time that she returned!

Midland Red (Actually the Birmingham and Midland Motor Omnibus company) was indeed a bus company,(A large one) before N B C and then Stagecoach took over and changed things.

They made their own vehicles and engines for many years, even into the 50s and 60s.. The marque was S O S, Shire's Own Specification, (Shire being the M D ) They had great expertise; during WW2 when steel was in short supply, they kept vehicles running when a crankshaft broke, by drilling, tapping and bolting the broken web back together. Where needs must, the devil drives!

Howard

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

Not only the Daily Wail that can't tell a train from a locomotive or think we use machines built for making the full-size locos. Far too many journalists in this country seem woefully ignorant of the most basic principles of science and engineering; regard these subjects as beneath their dignity; and so either do not ask, or do but are too dim or idle to relay the answers properly.

A year or so ago I looked up the web-site for a Major Model Engineering Exhibition, to ascertain times etc., and buy a ticket.

It carried a link to a daily paper's review of the show. Only it was from a year or two previously. The author started promisingly by recalling as a young boy, helping his uncle make small model ships. However, that was all the lazy, ignorant tyke could be bothered to see at the exhibition he'd been paid to visit and describe. The one photo was of a display of small static ship models; and the text more or less followed suit. There was basically no mention at all of model-engineering, of engineering projects from locos to clocks, i.c. engines to ornamental turning; of the numerous traders selling lots of engineering equipment.

And the paper? One you might expect to be more knowlegable, discerning and intelligent than the "red tops" when covering cultural rather than political matters: the Telegraph.

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