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  • #202093
    ChrisH
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      @chrish

      Where can I buy a tool at a reasonable price for honing model engine sized cylinders, that is, say ¾" diameter upwards?

      Chris

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      #24061
      ChrisH
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        @chrish
        #202095
        John Rudd
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          @johnrudd16576

          Polly models do one…..their E1 model goes down to 1/2".. Cat price is £14-95

          Look under their tools section …

          hth….

          #202096
          ChrisH
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            @chrish

            Thanks John, that will do for starters – Polly was the one place I didn't look at!

            Chris

            #202097
            NJH
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              @njh

              Chris

              Yes I used one of Polly's hones and it worked well. You need to keep it lubricated, keep it moving and keep from spraying oil all round the workshop!

              My solution was to do it on the drill press where the constant in / out action is easier. The oil was contained by " modifying" a tub of peaches ( I added the peaches to my breakfast cereal ..yum yum) It took a while but worked well.

              Regards

              Norman

              Honing on Drill Press

              #202100
              Bob Brown 1
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                @bobbrown1

                They are also available from other sources like **LINK** as they are used to hone brake cylinders. As Norman said can be messy and the mess is abrasive.

                Bob

                #202101
                will hawkes
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                  @willhawkes78155

                  you can get brake cyl hones with 3 stones that are adjustable from 19mm to about 50mm they cost about £8 inc post from most suppliers, i use the larger ones on bike cylinders , so i can see no problemsusing them for your model engines, will.

                  #202105
                  Roderick Jenkins
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                    @roderickjenkins93242

                    I've got the Sealy kit which is widely available. I used it on my Wyvern cylinder and only this weekend:

                    hone.jpg

                    Works very well lubricated with my usual cutting fluid. As for mess, they are not nearly as bad as lapping. The stones don't lose much material, most of the mess is from the item being honed. They are not as good as laps at producing a truly parallel bore but I found it good enough to get to 1/2 thou over a 4" length – certainly good enough for a piston with a ring. The hone got rid of a bit of a taper on the casting above in about 5 minutes.

                    Rod

                    #202154
                    Ian S C
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                      @iansc

                      I start with a cylinder hone, then move on to a wooden lap as I want a fine finish for my hot air engines. For an engine with CI rings, a hone leaves a good pattern on the bore to aid bedding in, and retaining an oil film.

                      Ian S C

                      #202160
                      David Clark 13
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                        @davidclark13

                        I think Polly sell honing fluid as well.

                        #202175
                        ChrisH
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                          @chrish

                          Thanks guys, I will get the E1 hone from Polly plus the oil, should cover my needs.

                          Chris

                          #202209
                          Ajohnw
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                            @ajohnw51620

                            I came across some shotgun honing stones once which I suspect might go smaller but I couldn't find a holder. I did wonder if the holders were adjustable too. They might be in order to obtain precise sizes.

                            John

                            #202231
                            Alex Collins
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                              @alexcollins55045

                              Turn a bit of rod just under size.
                              Cover in paper tape and Grinding paste.
                              Run in the lathe at a fairly slow speed.
                              Run your cylinder up and down for ~20 mins adding more paste as you go.

                              Repeat with the fine paste.
                              Take care not to bell the ends out.

                              Does it work as a method – 100% Yes.
                              Will it do what you need is up to you to decide.

                              #202308
                              jacques maurel
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                                @jacquesmaurel42310

                                Hello

                                You'll soon dicover that honing is boring, so why not try boring instead of?

                                J Maurel

                                #202311
                                Ajohnw
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                                  @ajohnw51620
                                  Posted by jacques maurel on 28/08/2015 15:51:56:

                                  Hello

                                  You'll soon dicover that honing is boring, so why not try boring instead of?

                                  J Maurel

                                  Probably because honing can produce both rounder and more parallel holes. With the some types of hones holes can be finished to a few microns, finish and everything else.

                                  John

                                  #202422
                                  Ian S C
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                                    @iansc

                                    With first honing, then lapping you can get a mirror finish, ideal for a cylinder using soft packing, or O rings, if you use CI rings, just hone it, the rings will bed in with the slight roughness, which will also hold a film of oil.

                                    Honing is boring, but nothing on lapping.

                                    Ian S C

                                    Edited By Ian S C on 29/08/2015 12:48:43

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