Another mystery lathe identification thread

[RainbowsParticipant @rainbows]

[RainbowsParticipant @rainbows]

New (well of course not actually new) lathe! Aceria escaped me but heres what £55 gets you at auction.

15×3, screwcutting [no gears :^( ] and backgeared with countershaft.

Of course lathes need motors! For a nominal charge of £20 or something heres what you get

Boy it was fun lifting that up.

In addition to the lathe the lot had a 3 jaw chuck, a spare tailstock and saddle.

So questions:

Anybody know what lathe it is?

Is 2 HP too powerful for it?

[frank brownParticipant @frankbrown22225]

I think ..2 HP would be more in keeping. Still it will stop the bench moving about.

Frank

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Thought it could be a Winfield/Randa, but although the tailstock looks right, headstock and cross slide details look wrong.

Could be a Zyto, maybe even this very rare one:

Zyto BTC 3"

A later model was advertised as the 'finest and cheapest lathe ever produced'.

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 21/08/2015 20:23:08

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

The tailstock and the rear headstock bearing with that rear facing fork look very Myford ML1 ish.

I like these games

Rod

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Be better with a front view or even one with the lights off sooner than a top view

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Well spotted, although with the four-slot cross slide an ML2 might be the one.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/myford-ml2-ml4/

But Rainbows doesn';t have that sort of luck… does he?

Neil

[RainbowsParticipant @rainbows]

Significant points

 

The screw cutting is controlled at the saddle rather than with a toggle switch at the headstock.

The headstock is bolted on suggesting against an ML1 though I agree they do have great resembalance in parts.

Countershaft is almost definetly home made and bolted onto the castiing.

It came with a Burnerd 3 jaw chuck marked "Speacially made for Myford ML7 Lathe" and instead of using a backplate is threaded on the body. (which is convenient cause I lost my thread gauge)

And you know I mentioned a spare tailstock and carriage? Without mounting it on to be certain I would say the spare carriage fits the lathe too.

 

Also there is a protrusion on the countershaft that kind of stops front views by making them top views. Once I find out what it does I will either cut it off or wait for it to be something other than incovenient.

Edited By Rainbows on 21/08/2015 22:40:29

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Augmenting the photo a little it might be an ML 1 1/2 or at least a copy. Myford would cast their name in the bed

ML 1 !/2 as some sell these as ML 2's but there is no tumbler reverse.

John

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[geoff walker 1Participant @geoffwalker1]

Hi All,

Does anyone recognise this lathe on ebay.

I've been offered one just like it, for free and will be collecting soon

Just curious as to the make?

geoffhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engineers-metal-turning-lathe/123068281811?hash=item1ca770f3d3:g:QssAAOSw73Nay34c

[geoff walker 1Participant @geoffwalker1]

Here is a picture of the lathe

geoff

[larry phelan 1Participant @larryphelan1]

Ah,the name Zyto ! Now that rings a bell from many moons ago.

My Father used to get a magazine,more a small book,really,called "The Mechanic" 1950,s/early 60.s ?, in which adverts used to appear for this machine,from a supplier called "Tysack",I think. Are they still around?

Sadly all of those mags went AWOL due to two house moves [I could use them now }

No matter how well you pack your stuff for a house move,you,ll be very lucky if you end up with it all at the other end. Dont ask me how,but it happens,more so if there,s a time gap involved.

[Martin WhittleParticipant @martinwhittle67411]

There is still the odd zyto around.

My Zyto is still in frequent use. It does play second fiddle to the Warco WM250, but is very useful if I want to machine smaller items, or not to alter setup on the '250, or want better runout.

Martin

[RainbowsParticipant @rainbows]

ooh not seen this thread in a while

I would say that the crank handles and thrust bearing assembly at the rear of the headstock spindle makes it older than a zyto maybe

[Andrew EntwistleParticipant @andrewentwistle]

Geoff, the lathe has some features in common with the Brittania No. 14 from 1890-1900 – see **LINK**

Andrew.

Edited By Andrew Entwistle on 14/04/2018 22:31:16

[geoff walker 1Participant @geoffwalker1]

Andrew, thank you for your reply. Yes the lathe shown does have some characteristics of the Britannia lathe.

I have yet to collect my inherited lathe from its current location but will post some pics when I do.

I'm reasonably sure that it is Leyland and Barlow, made just down the canal from where I live in Trafford park Manchester

Thanks again geoff

[Andrew EntwistleParticipant @andrewentwistle]

When I looked again at the two photos I realised there were subtle differences everywhere, the Leyland and Barlow looks like a perfect match though.

I also live just down the road, in Stretford, and I work about 100yds from Trafford Rd in Trafford Park.

Andrew.

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