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Push Button oiler ball Stuck!

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15 January 2017 at 08:05 #8498
Mark Eisen
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Push Button oiler ball Stuck!
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15 January 2017 at 08:05 #277836
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
One of the Push Button oilers ball is stuck in my lathe.
I have pulled the brass housing out, but the ball is stuck about 25 mm in.
I tried getting a magnetised rod to try and pull it out, didn't work.
Is there any way to get it out with out pulling the carriage to bits.

The lathe is a Steelmaster SM-0920V 9 X 20 ,

**LINK**

PS How do I post a photo?

Edited By Mark Eisen on 15/01/2017 08:07:56
15 January 2017 at 08:54 #277843
Brian H
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Thick grease or glue on the end of a thin rod or even a BBQ skewer?

Best of luck with it anyway.

Brian
15 January 2017 at 09:07 #277845
Speedy Builder5
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@speedybuilder5
I don't know how big the hole is, but could you suck it out – Get a small plastic tube (Inside of an empty biro) and tape this up to your hoover pipe, then try to suck it out. The ball may be stainless and non magnetic ?
BobH
15 January 2017 at 09:13 #277846
Thor 🇳🇴
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@thor
Hi Mark,

I agree with Brian, try with a bit of glue on a rod. To post photos, see this thread.

Thor
15 January 2017 at 10:02 #277860
Brian Wood
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Mark,

I'm afraid in my experience, once the ball has gone inside it will remain there. If it is a standard size, it probably is, run a self tap screw into it and pull the whole thing out with nail pincers and fit a new one in it's place.

Regards
Brian
15 January 2017 at 10:45 #277877
Brian Wood
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@brianwood45127
Mark,
Ooops, sorry. I hadn't appreciated you had the body out already, although you say so clearly enough when looking back.

Sticking anything to an oily ball is a challenge without adding the difficulty of going down inside a hole. Clean it as best you can with a plastic tube with bog paper up inside it, then rest a clean tube cut cleanly for a square end on top of the ball and run a little Loctite down inside and leave it to bond tube and ball together.

Have a tea break and then pull with care and a prayer

Regards
Brian
15 January 2017 at 10:56 #277880
Gordon W
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@gordonw
First find out where the little ball has gone- might be in a vunerable place.
15 January 2017 at 11:16 #277888
peak4
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@peak4
Depends where it is, can you get to the other side of the orifice, even indirectly, with an air line.

If so, try blowing it out, with a rag to catch the ball; a) so you don't lose it, b) to avoid shooting next door's cat .
15 January 2017 at 11:43 #277895
Michael Gilligan
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Posted by Brian Wood on 15/01/2017 10:45:46:

Sticking anything to an oily ball is a challenge without adding the difficulty of going down inside a hole. Clean it as best you can with a plastic tube with bog paper up inside it, then rest a clean tube cut cleanly for a square end on top of the ball and run a little Loctite down inside and leave it to bond tube and ball together.

Have a tea break and then pull with care and a prayer

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Brian,

Conceptually, that's a great idea, but [even as a Loctite enthusiast] … I suspect that you might need to insert "engage the Infinite Improbability Drive" somewhere in that closing line. **LINK**

http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Infinite_Improbability_Drive

… In all honesty, I think the vacuum pipe is more likely to succeed.

MichaelG.
15 January 2017 at 17:43 #277972
mark costello 1
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Vacuum and pressure. Make it irresistible.
15 January 2017 at 18:51 #277985
Rik Shaw
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@rikshaw
" run a self tap screw into it and pull the whole thing out with nail pincers"

Thanks for that Brian – I have a couple of stuck balls on my lathe so I'll use your method to remove them. They seem to be reasonably cheap on ebay so I'd better get some in.

Rik
15 January 2017 at 18:57 #277987
daveb
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It's probably not worth spending too much time on a damaged one, they are available at modest cost in Metric and Imperial sizes from a number of model engineering suppliers.
16 January 2017 at 09:45 #278102
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
Sorry about being blurred trying to get a close up, but the is what it should look like.
16 January 2017 at 09:47 #278105
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
Here is the stuck ball I think the silver/shiny bit on the L/H is the spring.

Edited By Mark Eisen on 16/01/2017 10:09:21
16 January 2017 at 09:49 #278106
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
Old and new Push Button oiler.

I screwed a self tapper in to the old one and used a claw hammer to lever it out.
16 January 2017 at 09:53 #278108
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
The next two photos are from the very high quality loose leaved chinglish manual that came with it.

PS I just worked out how to add more than one pic at a time to a post.

Edited By Mark Eisen on 16/01/2017 10:12:22
16 January 2017 at 10:03 #278115
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
I have bought 20 X 6 mm Push Button oilers for $4.43

and 20 X 8 mm for $4.44

1 X cost $3.95 here in Aust go figure?

Here is the link if any one needs it.

**LINK**
24 January 2017 at 06:20 #279809
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
Success at last.

Remove the shear pin on head stock end of the lead screw,
undo and remove lead screw bush block on tail stock end.
Loosen the two tension cup-head screws, undo the two big cup-head screws at the front of the carriage cones of easy as pie.

Note the bonus finger prints, someone with smaller fingers than me, quick scrub with kero wouldn't budge then.

The two cup-head screws that hold the apron on.
I will get some new ones next time I go down the street.
24 January 2017 at 06:22 #279810
Mark Eisen
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@markeisen61287
Here is the culprit, some reason it had a double spring it was the one on the left I could see.

Good as new.

Thank you every one for all you help and advice.
24 January 2017 at 22:05 #279996
David Taylor
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Thanks for the link! My lathe has the same problem. I'll get some as soon as the seller gets back.
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