Stopping castings rusting

Stopping castings rusting

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    Matt Stevens 1
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      @mattstevens1

      So another beginner question you might say….

      When you have finished a model, protection from rusting is normally in the form of oiling for the inside and the graphite yarn on pistons will assist with this. For the outside, paint is normally the order of the day….that is, unless its a surface that is polished and by design is to be free from paint and/or oil. E.G. a Flywheel.

      So….how do you prevent those shiny non coated parts like flywheels, valve chests and covers from rusting?

      Interested to hear your views.

      Thanks

      Matt

      #24529
      Matt Stevens 1
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        @mattstevens1
        #237658
        pgk pgk
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          @pgkpgk17461

          I haven't used it but own some rustins metal lacquer

          #237659
          Nigel McBurney 1
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            @nigelmcburney1

            If storage area is reasonably warm and dry,a light smear of 3 in 1 oil helps retain the shine, if stored under worse conditions then a thicker oil ,e.g. a straight 30 motor oil helps keep rust at bay, though i have found that high grade motor oils are not as good as mono grade cheap oils.possibly due to the good oil absorbing water. Only use wd 40 to dry out a model that has got wet,it does not keep water at bay for long periods. on larger model stationary engines or full size restored engines ,one way to keep the flywheels and other bright parts bright is to oil up the bright surfaces with cheap oil and then cover the surface with cling film. Ideal for winter storage.

            #237660
            Matt Stevens 1
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              @mattstevens1

              my only thought about using any type of oil is the smell….. I am hoping to have my Stuart D10 proudly displayed somewhere around the house and want to avoid the wife telling me it has to go away because it smells oily!!!

              But thanks for the feedback….

              #237661
              JasonB
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                @jasonb

                Unless you live in a very damp house I would not worry. I made my D10 about 30years ago and its sat on various shelves ever since no sign of rust on any of the bare metal be it steel or iron.

                This is a video of it taken a few months ago, not much sign of rust, dust on the other hand is more of a problem!

                #237662
                Tony Simons
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                  @tonysimons69671

                  I use boiled linseed oil thinned with white spirit.

                  #237663
                  mark smith 20
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                    @marksmith20

                    How about renaissance wax, quite expensive but its great stuff for allsorts of things.

                    #237664
                    Russell Eberhardt
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                      @russelleberhardt48058

                      Not tried it on cast iron but a solution of shellac in meths works well on brass and keeps it bright for years.

                      Russell.

                      #237665
                      Rod Neep
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                        @rodneep80388

                        This stuff is brilliant.

                        I have been using this one small 2" diameter tub on carbon steel knives, etc. for years. The tub contains an impregnated cloth. One wipe over and the steel/iron is rust proofed.

                        Rod

                        #237668
                        Neil Wyatt
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                          @neilwyatt

                          My 10V is only half the age of Jason's but after seventeen years in workshops it's also rust free.

                          Neil

                          #237670
                          roy entwistle
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                            @royentwistle24699

                            Beeswax or furniture polish

                            #237692
                            peak4
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                              @peak4

                              The Japanese have been using Camellia Oil to protect cutting tools and weapons for centuries.

                              Motorcyclists have been using Motorex Moto Protect with much success; (formerly Motorex 645, then Protect and Shine )

                              Both products can be obtained cheaper with a little research.

                              .

                              #237693
                              John Reese
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                                @johnreese12848

                                When my brother worked in carpentry he used Future floor coating on his tools to prevent rust. Based on his experience I used Future to protect soil sampling tubes from rust. It worked beautifully. Is Future available in the UK?

                                #237696
                                Ed Duffner
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                                  @edduffner79357

                                  Future is known as Johnsons Klear in the UK. Great for plastic kit modellers too.

                                  Ed.

                                  #237727
                                  Anonymous

                                    I find that highly polished surfaces are not prone to rust if kept indoors, with no need for coatings. The exception is EN1A – it rusts before you get it off the machine tool. These cast iron flywheels reside in the assembly hall (sorry, I meant kitchen) and seem fine so far:

                                    flywheel_final.jpg

                                    Andrew

                                    #237731
                                    Ian S C
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                                      @iansc

                                      Apparently, hair spray works quite well.

                                      One interesting method was used by Dr. J. Bradbury Winter, and mentioned in the first issue of "The Model Engineer and Amateur Electrician" in 1898. In the glass case that he kept his models on display he placed small glass trays with concentrated sulphuric acid, this absorbs the moisture from the air, preventing rust. Maybe not recommended today, but a similar system could be use using silica-gel.

                                      I tend not to paint my creations, and have little trouble with rust, even though they are mostly kept in my uninsulated and unheated galvanised iron workshop.

                                      Ian S C

                                      Edited By Ian S C on 06/05/2016 10:34:46

                                      #237738
                                      Martin 100
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                                        @martin100

                                        ACF50 (google it) spray onto paper towel or chamois swab and apply very lightly.

                                        #237756
                                        richard folwell
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                                          @richardfolwell36886

                                          The best product for rust prevention I've found is 'Waxoyl'. Used by the classic car fraternity for rust proofing chassis and body panels it will even protect items stored outdoors, as well I know. It is also easily removed with white spirit or similar. Used to be available from Halfords. Another plus is that it's cheap!

                                          #237895
                                          Dave Halford
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                                            @davehalford22513

                                            Back in the day (80's) I bought some rust inhibit paper.

                                            it still works

                                            No gunge to clean off

                                            smiley

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