Vertical height gauge

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

I've just acquired an 11" English N.S.F. Co Ltd vertical height gauge from the bay of e

It is missing the scribe and clamp, does anyone have drawings and measurement details for the scribe please?

Or where I can get a suitable replacement?

Thanks

Roger

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

ARC sell spare scribing blades, check size though

 

EDIT looks liek they don't do them now, see further down.

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[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

I got to ask, was that from We..ex…..y ebayer? If so its a nice item, I have seen it in the flesh but did not buy as I could not source a scribe. Not that hard to make I guess?

martin

[brickyParticipant @bricky]

Hello Roger

I have the same height gauge and I have the dimensions of the holder and the blade.The holder is 1.168" long .581 high .275 wide the slot is 50th from the end and .737 long with a knurled screw in the end,The blade is .175 wide 2.252" long .360 high with a 30 degree slope.Let me know if you require any more information.Hope this helps.

Frank

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Just an amused observation slightly off topic… I still find that people still won't call it what it is…myself included in the early days… eBay, it is a global auction / shopping site with no copyright restrictions on items that I'm aware of… other than the name itself… so flea bay, 'that auction site' sea bay, bay of e, et al… at the end of the day call it what it is… it's eBay!, same with that other site, the 'bouncy one'… 'that elastic shop'… 'Gum tree … ' … that's my head above the parapet for today, mind you I am wearing a facsimile of Ned Kelly's helmet & am prepared for a large headache from the resonance … ​. Have a nice day y'all

George.

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

George,

You forgot to mention that you have no connection to Ebay apart from being a satisfied customer.

Tony

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 30/05/2017 18:15:47:

George,

You forgot to mention that you have no connection to EBay apart from being a satisfied customer.

Tony

Oh dear, mea culpa, consider it said… & that goes for any other dealer/Co. that I admit to dealing with on this, or any other forum… .

[Rod AshtonParticipant @rodashton53132]

Got a link to the Arc reference please? Cannot find it!

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Sorry, looks like they may not be doing them now as I can't find them either.

Machine DRO have about 4 of the cranked ones listed which could possibly be adaptable

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Posted by Martin King 2 on 30/05/2017 14:49:33:

I got to ask, was that from We..ex…..y ebayer? If so its a nice item, I have seen it in the flesh but did not buy as I could not source a scribe. Not that hard to make I guess?

martin

Yes that's the one Martin, came on Monday and in good condition just a bit of staining.

I like the fact that it has imperial and metric scales.

Regards

Roger

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Posted by mechman48 on 30/05/2017 18:00:11:

Just an amused observation slightly off topic… I still find that people still won't call it what it is…myself included in the early days… eBay, it is a global auction / shopping site with no copyright restrictions on items that I'm aware of… other than the name itself… so flea bay, 'that auction site' sea bay, bay of e, et al… at the end of the day call it what it is… it's eBay!, same with that other site, the 'bouncy one'… 'that elastic shop'… 'Gum tree … ' … that's my head above the parapet for today, mind you I am wearing a facsimile of Ned Kelly's helmet & am prepared for a large headache from the resonance … ​. Have a nice day y'all

George.

George, George, George,

That happened to be the first time I called Ebay that, wish I hadn't bothered now 

Never mind, catch this virtual nuke coming over now 

Roger

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[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Posted by bricky on 30/05/2017 16:28:25:

Hello Roger

I have the same height gauge and I have the dimensions of the holder and the blade.The holder is 1.168" long .581 high .275 wide the slot is 50th from the end and .737 long with a knurled screw in the end,The blade is .175 wide 2.252" long .360 high with a 30 degree slope.Let me know if you require any more information.Hope this helps.

Frank

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the info, do you happen to have a photo please? Can't quite visualise it sitting on the gauge, the one's I've seen have a step so they line up with the bottom of the vernier. Is it like that or does it line up with the top?

Regards

Roger

[brickyParticipant @bricky]

Hi Roger

The scale on mine which is only imperial starts 1" above the base. The blade on mine is straight and there is no place in the box for a cranked blade.I set the workpiece on an 1" block for marking below 1".There is a screw in the top of the block which the blade holder sits on .I can't get the hang of posting photographs I'm sorry.

Frank

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

The crank in the scriber allows you to set scale zero with reference to the table surface. mine has a cranked scriber and the scribing/cutter is only a small piece of carbide silver soldered to the bottom of the cranked arm.

Clive

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

If you have a google you will find some old adverts that show it with the straight blade.

From Bricky's description it sounds like this one I have

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[brickyParticipant @bricky]

The blade on top of the arm with the slope upwards the vernier aligns at 1" but is 1.375 above the base,this is the only position that makes sense as the other configurations of the blde do not zero on 1" on the vernier,has anyone got an explanation for this.

Frank

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Is the scale adjustable on the column? My gauge is which allows for slight differences in the blade thickness, basically set the blade to rest on a 1" gauge block etc then adjust the whole scale until it reads 1" and then lock the scale into position.

[brickyParticipant @bricky]

The scale is engraved on the column and there is no adjustment on the vernier .

Frank

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by bricky on 31/05/2017 13:28:59:

The scale is engraved on the column and there is no adjustment on the vernier .

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Forgive me, Frank … I've just looked at 'Sold' listings on ebay, and assume that I have found the item that you bought.

If I am correct, then it looks very much like the Vernier is adjustable.

MichaelG. [somewhat confused]

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P.S. … catalogue illustration here: **LINK**

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

How far off zero does it measure when the scribe is fitted slope down, must be close to zero as the scribes are just under 3/8" so that would take care of most of your 1.375" any small amount remaining can be adjusted by the two small screws that hold the venier scale

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

I'm thinking it should be more like this one:

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[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Though the images that I found on Google mentioned earlier and Micheal's link show them all with straight scribes

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[brickyParticipant @bricky]

Michael the vernier is adjustable ,but the vernier plate held in place by the two screws is tight in the apeture and is not adjustable.My height gauge is exactly like the catalogue .With the blade below the arm tight to the base the blade is 25/32" from the surface plate and the vernier scale is .150"above the 1" mark.

Frank

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by bricky on 31/05/2017 22:26:13:

Michael the vernier is adjustable ,but the vernier plate held in place by the two screws is tight in the apeture and is not adjustable.My height gauge is exactly like the catalogue .With the blade below the arm tight to the base the blade is 25/32" from the surface plate and the vernier scale is .150"above the 1" mark.

Frank

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Evidently, I misunderstood your previous comment.

MichaelG.

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