Looking for rectangle metal bar

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Diemensions are 3″x2″x 15″ in steel . This is going to cost an arm and a leg ? Where would be the best place to try . Postage will probably be the deal killer .

Sean

Edited By sean logie on 03/10/2017 15:43:21

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

[Jon GibbsParticipant @jongibbs59756]

I'm a very satisfied customer of m-machine metals.

Give them a try.

Jon

[mark smith 20Participant @marksmith20]

M metals is £58 + shipping which with Sean living in the HIghlands (if i remember ) will worlk out expensive.

These lot on ebay sell 250mm of 3×2" for £29.83 and 500mm of 3×2" for £45.63 or a letre for £59 Shipping included.But being in the highland they do say there may be a charge.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mild-Steel-Flat-Bar-Bright-Largest-Selection-on-eBay-/122455034298?var=&hash=item1c82e389ba:m:m0L7CPnIwkSPHTPwblEJFmw

there may be cheaper elsewhere or a local steel stockholder etc…

Edited By mark smith 20 on 03/10/2017 16:30:38

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Bright or black?

[John RuddParticipant @johnrudd16576]

Is this suitable?

https://jenkinssteelonlinemetal.co.uk/product/3-x-2-flat-bar-x-500mm-bright-080a15/

[Wayne WardParticipant @wayneward51978]

I’ve used this supplier and I have no complaints

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Think I might have to go and see my friendly machinist shop .Just measured the mill and I'll need 80mm x 40mm x 400 . Which end mill would be best suited for hogging the 15mm either side off material for making the dovetail , I'll probably try!! and do this in the Centec which has a mt2 tapered spindle .

Sean

[mark smith 20Participant @marksmith20]

Posted by John Rudd on 03/10/2017 17:41:09:

Is this suitable?

https://jenkinssteelonlinemetal.co.uk/product/3-x-2-flat-bar-x-500mm-bright-080a15/

I didnt know they had a website shop actually £4 cheaper than what i stated above from their ebay shop. Must be adding in paypal/final value fees to their prices on ebay.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Would have thought a side and face cutter in the Horz mill would hog it out better than using an end mill. If you do want to use a milling cutter then try a Roughing one, sometimes called a ripper.

[John RuddParticipant @johnrudd16576]

Posted by mark smith 20 on 03/10/2017 18:53:21:

Posted by John Rudd on 03/10/2017 17:41:09:

Is this suitable?

https://jenkinssteelonlinemetal.co.uk/product/3-x-2-flat-bar-x-500mm-bright-080a15/

I didnt know they had a website shop actually £4 cheaper than what i stated above from their ebay shop. Must be adding in paypal/final value fees to their prices on ebay.

Lucky for me, they are going to be ten mins up the road when I move..( pretty soon..)

Sure, I'll pay them a visit and say hi…..

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Posted by JasonB on 03/10/2017 19:02:21:

Would have thought a side and face cutter in the Horz mill would hog it out better than using an end mill. If you do want to use a milling cutter then try a Roughing one, sometimes called a ripper.

End mills are considerably cheaper than horizontal cutters ,there are plenty of used one's out there and they're not easy to resharpen I'm led to believe .

Sean

[MikelkieParticipant @mikelkie]

Here near my shop is a dealer that buys redundant metals of all sorts and resells them at a price less than a third of the cost of new, isn't there metal mongers that do the same over by you guys?

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Sean, have you thought about contacting your local steel stockholders in Inverness?

e.g. **LINK** or http://www.inverfab.co.uk/services/

Expensive prices on line, but I guess you could offer to collect and see what they might have in the scrap bin.

Bill.

Edited By peak4 on 03/10/2017 21:21:32

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

All the above prices seem way over the top to me. Luckily living in the Midlands I am close to many steel stockholders and tend to buy from their offcut rack for cash.

[Clive WashingtonParticipant @clivewashington54052]

Are you trying to make a raising block for the Centec vertical head? Mine is made of light alloy and its fine, no need for steel. Its a 3 inch square piece or thereabouts.

[Anonymous]

Posted by JasonB on 03/10/2017 19:02:21:

Would have thought a side and face cutter in the Horz mill would hog it out better than using an end mill

+1

No point in having a horizontal mill if you don't use it to make swarf; 1" wide cutter and ½" DOC:

All my S&F cutters and slab mills are secondhand, via Ebay. Many still had the wax coating,so either new or reground. Don't think I've paid more than £10 for a cutter. Of course there are always the dreamers asking silly money, and cutters with teeth missing, but it should be possible to find decent cutters at a sensible price.

I have the wherewithal to sharpen S&F cutters, although thus far I haven't needed to.

Andrew

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

If that is a good guess, at 400mm, he would need to have two stabs at it. Table travel is only about 225mm on a 2A. A 40mm riser is neither here nor there, I would say. My ally riser is about 120mm – and that is on a 2B. The work entailed would be considerable and a decent sized riser would only cost extra material. Could bolt on the other dovetail, I suppose….

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Posted by Andrew Johnston on 03/10/2017 22:03:37:

Posted by JasonB on 03/10/2017 19:02:21:

Would have thought a side and face cutter in the Horz mill would hog it out better than using an end mill

+1

No point in having a horizontal mill if you don't use it to make swarf; 1" wide cutter and ½" DOC:

All my S&F cutters and slab mills are secondhand, via Ebay. Many still had the wax coating,so either new or reground. Don't think I've paid more than £10 for a cutter. Of course there are always the dreamers asking silly money, and cutters with teeth missing, but it should be possible to find decent cutters at a sensible price.

I have the wherewithal to sharpen S&F cutters, although thus far I haven't needed to.

Andrew

That's not a Centec your using ,unless I'm mistaken 😋

Sean

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Posted by sean logie on 03/10/2017 22:42:15:

That's not a Centec your using ,unless I'm mistaken 😋

Sean

But it is also a much bigger slab of metal, it's all proportional. Also the amount of metal that a S&F cutter can remove before it goes blunt would be quite a bit more before an endmill is past its best so figure in the cost of two or 3 milling cutters to one S&F

If I'm right going by past posts this is for a run of QCTP tool holders

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

The steel will be for mounting the vertical head, so I need to try and cut full length dovetails which will be a serious challenge for the little Centec2. I’ve been speaking to a local engineering firm about them cutting the dovetails .

Sean

Edited By sean logie on 04/10/2017 07:48:28

[Anonymous]

Posted by sean logie on 03/10/2017 22:42:15:

That's not a Centec your using ,unless I'm mistaken 😋

No it isn't, a tad bigger machine, but it is a horizontal mill.

Andrew

[Clive WashingtonParticipant @clivewashington54052]

Don't forget the dovetail is half an inch deep so a 2 inch block of metal will only give you an inch and a half of lift, which isn't enough to be worth the trouble IMHO. Mine is 3 inch square but was carved from a 3 x 3.5 inch block. It's been ideal although 3 x 4 material would be easier to get and would give you an extra half inch. And we could all do with an extra half inch.

[sean logieParticipant @seanlogie69385]

Did you use the full length of the centec dovetail Clive or just the front section .Can’t make my mind up about this

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

If you make it long enough, you can avoid swapping in the horizontal arm when changing modes. Just hang your arbor support from the underside. Mine is, but I would not want mine made of steel – it is already heavy enough as it is!

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