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    Clive Hartland
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      Lapping a bronze cylinder

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      #91001
      Clive Hartland
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        @clivehartland94829

        I have two 13mm bores to lap and they are made of bronze, any tips on the lap materiel and grades of compound to use.

        I have 600 and 1000 grade compound that I can use.

        I need to remove as little as possible.

        Clive

        #91036
        Sub Mandrel
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          @submandrel

          Lap has to be softer than the material to be cut and allow the abrasive to embed, so I'd suggest an aluminium alloy or even wood.

          Neil

          #91044
          Clive Hartland
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            @clivehartland94829

            Thanks for the reply Neil, my thoughts also and was considering making a lead lap.

            The job at the moment has to be mounted on a mandrel to machine the outside and I was considering using that as a lap but it is steel.

            So I think I will go with the Alu. lap.

            Clive

            #91049
            JohnF
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              @johnf59703

              Hi Clive, If you need the lap adjustable make a lead lap, I have made many of these to lap barrels. I knurl a BMS rod then drill and taper ream for a taper pin, split this section of the BMS rod and deburr the inside for the taper pin then cast an oversize section of lead over the knurled section. I made a split alluminium mould for this.

              lastly turn to the diameter requiered and "load" with lapping paste by rolling the lap on a glass plate. It can of course be expanded by tapping in the taper pin. Oh and don't forget to put some oil in the bore and wash well when fininshed. For an extra fine finish use pumis mixed with oil but I have not used this on bronze.

              Good luck John.

              #91051
              julian atkins
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                @julianatkins58923

                hi clive,

                i would split a length of 12mm copper tube inserted over a wooden dowel and use that as a lap, or else use a wooden dowel with very fine wet and dry paper (1200 grade) wrapped around till reasonably tight in the bore. wash out afterwards with paraffin. it is very important that the lapping compound cant be squeezed into a recess and cut deeper than required.. hence a split lap or the use of fine wet and dry paper (in it's dry state), plus the use with (very fine) compound of a lap that must be softer than the cylinder material. avoid valve grinding paste like the plague… it's far too course for our requirements. if you use 'brasso' make sure it doesnt dry out during the lapping process. personally i prefer 1200 grade wet and dry paper.

                good luck!

                cheers,

                julian

                #91090
                Ian S C
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                  @iansc

                  I use wooden laps, turned to a sliding fit, and split down the middle, a wood screw is fitted in the slot to expand the lap as required. Ian S C

                  #91271
                  nigel jones 5
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                    @nigeljones5

                    can someone please explain this process to me…i thought it was akin to honing but now im confused???

                    #91279
                    MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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                      @michaelwilliams41215

                      Hi Nigel ,

                      Honing is done with solid fine stone – like piece of a slipstone . It is usually done in a controlled manner using a manufactured 'hone' with one or more stones and a means of adjustment .

                      Lapping is done using grinding paste on a soft metal (or wood/Tufnol etc ) tool which is just rubbed against the job . Tools are often improvised but usually have simple means of adjustment .

                      There is a backwards version of lapping where grinding paste is applied to a flat surface and the work rubbed against it .

                      Both honing an lapping are capable of producing high accuracy work .

                      As usual there is much more to it .

                      Michael Williams

                      #91598
                      Clive Hartland
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                        @clivehartland94829

                        OK, I have carried out the lapping of the bores and I used a piece of PTFE rod.

                        After turning it to a push fit in the bores I slit it down the middle and then put a screw in the end and used 1000 grade abrasive.

                        Its come out fine with a matt finish on the surface in the bore, more than good enough for me.

                        Clive

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