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    Cornish Jack
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      #545931
      Cornish Jack
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        @cornishjack

        A rummage in the "It'll come in handy one day" pile, produced the item in the piccies below. Ingenious, well made, probably one-off – anyone recognise it or similar?

        TIA

        rgds

        Bill

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        #545933
        Lee Rogers
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          @leerogers95060

          Is it made of Tuffnell ?

          #545939
          bricky
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            @bricky

            I wonder if it is a wire tentioner for supporting chain link fencing.I have used one many years ago and it has some similarity ,but that one had a lever instead of handle.

            Frank

            #545941
            Nicholas Farr
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              @nicholasfarr14254

              Hi Bill, my guess it's a hand held wench, attach the hook that's fix to the frame to a post or a trailer for example and the other hook to whatever you what to move and then just wind in.

              Regards Nick.

              #545942
              Bazyle
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                @bazyle

                Kind of neat idea. I wonder if it was the one sample made for marketing or patent application. Has teh look of something sold by small ads in car magazines in the fifties.

                #545944
                Jim Nic
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                  @jimnic

                  Nick

                  The notion of winding in a hand held wench intrigues me no end.

                  Sorry, not normally pedantic but I couldn't resist.

                  Jim

                  #545948
                  bernard towers
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                    @bernardtowers37738

                    BT ENGINEERINGused similar devices not with chain but wire rope and had portable tripods from which it was centrally hung. I think it was for large carriageway/ footway cover lifting

                    #545952
                    Jon Lawes
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                      @jonlawes51698

                      I think we had one of these (or very similar) at an old workplace for lifting large manhole covers in a hangar floor.

                      #545956
                      Robert Atkinson 2
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                        @robertatkinson2

                        It looks like a small bomb hoist. Used for loading munitions into aircraft. fixed hook goes in loop on aircraft, chain to lug on bomb. Extended neck is needed to cler the body of the munition
                        Newer ones tend to be cable with within a tubular neck.

                        Robert G8rRPI

                        #545959
                        Nicholas Farr
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                          @nicholasfarr14254

                          Hi Jim, yes I suppose a hand held wench would intrigue you no end, sadly it should say winch, so I'm sorry your dreams won't be coming true just yet. devil

                          Regards Nick.

                          #545963
                          not done it yet
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                            @notdoneityet

                            Robert is spot on, I would think.

                            #545969
                            Cornish Jack
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                              @cornishjack

                              Thank you to all for the replies. Yes, the body is Tufnol and very well made. Somewhat oddly, the inboard end of the chain has a bit of wire twisted on itself to bunch up the last three or four links but not secured to the body. I fitted a 3mm screw through the last link and fixed it inside.

                              The small bomb hoist sounds very plausible

                              Thanks again

                              rgds

                              Bill

                              #545985
                              not done it yet
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                                @notdoneityet

                                Only “plausible”? Check out how its done even nowadays! Plenty of examples on the net showing armaments being fitted to war planes.

                                #545993
                                larry phelan 1
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                                  @larryphelan1

                                  Yes indeed, there,s nothing wrong with having a lusty wench around the workshop !cheeky

                                  #546247
                                  John Reese
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                                    @johnreese12848

                                    It is unfortunate there is confusion between wench and winch. One is associated with pleasure and the other with work.

                                    #546251
                                    Nicholas Farr
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                                      @nicholasfarr14254
                                      Posted by John Reese on 22/05/2021 01:46:37:

                                      It is unfortunate there is confusion between wench and winch. One is associated with pleasure and the other with work.

                                      Hi John, but you can get a workout with both of them, i.e. you could have a wench as a running partner on your daily jog. wink 2

                                      Regards Nick.

                                      #546277
                                      SillyOldDuffer
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                                        @sillyoldduffer

                                        I wondered if it's for pulling a telephone line or power cable up to the crossbar on top of a pole. Possibly, with the long chain attached to the cable in the ground, the linesman braced the squared edge of the winch against the crossbar and hauled the heavy cable up. The ratchet allows him to gather breath!

                                        If a lineman's tool, it dates back to men doing everything with ladders. The chaps repairing overhead power cables in the village recently used a cherry picker.

                                        Dave

                                        #546281
                                        Cornish Jack
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                                          @cornishjack

                                          NDIY – only "plausible" because of the construction method.

                                          Most Service equipment I used or came into contact with was either of exceptional quality or built like the proverbial outhouse ! This is well made, but not of the highest quality – the output feed roller and the internal chain termination, for example.

                                          From memory, the 'real thing' was metal and the extension was tubular.

                                          rgds

                                          Bill

                                          #546291
                                          Rik Shaw
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                                            @rikshaw

                                            This looks very similar to a gadget that our platoon WO2 invented in the sixties.

                                            A major problem back then was that the Centurion tank engine needed to be tilted before it could be lifted out by one of our gibbed half track recovery vehicles. Until then the job involved a lot of time, crow bars, brute force, sweat, bad language and more than a degree of luck.

                                            Jim's tilting solution saved all that but more importantly, the engine change was done much quicker. He deserved the award the army gave him.

                                            Rik

                                            #546321
                                            Farmboy
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                                              @farmboy

                                              Just a thought, as I've never seen anything like it: If used in the conventional way, held in the left hand and cranked with the right, the chain comes out at the top so the device would rise with whatever it was lifting; the opposite to any conventional winch I've seen. Could it have been used to pull something down?

                                              #546331
                                              Dave Halford
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                                                @davehalford22513
                                                Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 22/05/2021 10:19:46:

                                                I wondered if it's for pulling a telephone line or power cable up to the crossbar on top of a pole. Possibly, with the long chain attached to the cable in the ground, the linesman braced the squared edge of the winch against the crossbar and hauled the heavy cable up. The ratchet allows him to gather breath!

                                                If a lineman's tool, it dates back to men doing everything with ladders. The chaps repairing overhead power cables in the village recently used a cherry picker.

                                                Dave

                                                Certainly not telephone, a sash line was used to haul stuff up poles and the tool that tensioned open copper wires was bare steel and looked nothing like that.

                                                Wasn't all forces kit marked WD /I GPO tools were all stamped with the Rate Book number back then.

                                                #546427
                                                Cornish Jack
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                                                  @cornishjack

                                                  Well spotted Farmboy – yes, thinking 'conventionally, it is 'left-handed' to use it as a direct lifting device.

                                                  "Curiouser and curiouser", said Alice !

                                                  tgds

                                                  Bill

                                                  #546428
                                                  Robert Atkinson 2
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                                                    @robertatkinson2
                                                    Posted by Farmboy on 22/05/2021 13:11:02:

                                                    Just a thought, as I've never seen anything like it: If used in the conventional way, held in the left hand and cranked with the right, the chain comes out at the top so the device would rise with whatever it was lifting; the opposite to any conventional winch I've seen. Could it have been used to pull something down?

                                                    That sort of supports the small bomb winch or similar applcation lifting something up into position. The winch handle allows single person control of the exact position of the load while lifting.

                                                    I agree that the construction doe not look mass produced. It may have been built for a similar application but influenced by experience with a bomb winch.
                                                    Aitcraft tend to have things installed from below. It might have been for engine accesories like a generator or starter motor.

                                                    Robert G8RPI.

                                                    #546430
                                                    old mart
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                                                      @oldmart

                                                      The bomb winch idea has the most merits as far as I can see, I would that as the hooks are of simple design, they are for a vertical application rather than horizontal. Lifting something other than bombs is likely and fine adjustment as in the engine fitting sounds good as well. I would tend to think that the tool was intended to be used in a clean enviroment inside a building most likely.

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