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    donkey
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      @donkey

      Hey guys

      I have one or more workshop visitors. I have not seen it or them yet but see their waste deposits. My question is what food or treat do people use to catch the blighters in a suitable size trap. I hope not to come face to face with them whilst machining so would like them to no longer visit. Can anyone help.

      Brian

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      donkey
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        @donkey
        #179055
        Bob Brown 1
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          @bobbrown1

          large or small?

          #179057
          Martin Kyte
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            @martinkyte99762

            Chocolate. Much more effective than cheese.

            #179059
            Peter Bond
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              @peterbond14804

              Mars bars I've always found to be effective as bait for mice. Added bonus is it sticks to the trap which makes it more difficult to remove, so increases the chances of the trap firing.

              Of course, the second mouse to come along will nick the bait; absolutely no respect for the dead.

              For rats, cat food works well. Peanut butter too IIRC.

              #179060
              JA
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                @ja
                Posted by Martin Kyte on 09/02/2015 10:45:16:

                Chocolate. Much more effective than cheese.

                Agreed. Or cooked sausage meat.

                JA

                #179065
                Martin Kyte
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                  @martinkyte99762

                  You could always start talking about parting off and let them die of old age.

                  :0)

                  #179070
                  Steve F
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                    @stevef

                    Hi

                    Our mice were rather keen on peanut butter. They just didnt like the electric shock !

                    regards

                    Steve

                    #179071
                    Bob Brown 1
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                      @bobbrown1

                      A cat

                      #179072
                      Speedy Builder5
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                        @speedybuilder5

                        My mate swears by the ultrasonic mouse scarers. Never seen a mouse in the house, for me, I like the simple trap with cheese. You can buy 'Mouse Glue', spread it on a postcard and when they run over the card, they get stuck in it. Not a particularly nice job getting rid of them – unless you have sadist tendancys.

                        #179073
                        Nick_G
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                          @nick_g

                          .

                          Make one. laughwink

                          Nick

                          #179075
                          Jon Gibbs
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                            @jongibbs59756

                            +1 for peanut butter.

                            Jon

                            #179077
                            Gordon W
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                              @gordonw

                              Just about anything will do for bait, chocolate ,dripping etc. The little plastic traps work well for mice, but you must tie them down, very light. I have 2 cats that live in the shop and still get mice. I have not found the ultra-sound gismos do much good. Poison bait is the long term answer. lay it according to instructions and it is no bother. Remember if one pregnant female gets in and stays!

                              #179078
                              nigel jones 5
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                                @nigeljones5

                                When I graduated (long ago) my first job was as a biologist for Rentokill…..mices like chocky, rats very much like soap! And it lasts for months without going off or attracting other nasties. As far as ultrasonics go, there isnt a shred of evidence anywhere to prove that they work! (sure, lots of people have written lots of things but that doesnt make it true). There are humane traps for mice which catch them alive and you release them elsewhere, this is my prefered option these days. The poisens are very effective but they kill in an extremely unpleasant manner! And if mousey dies in a hard to access place the stench is awful and lasts for weeks! Be warned. If youve got rats then you have a big and potentially life threatening problem in the workshop- big!

                                #179079
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133

                                  Brilliant picture, Nick !!

                                  My visitors were tiny Field Mice, who had a fondness for sampling 'interesting' materials … as the plastic handles on some of my screwdrivers will testify.

                                  • Peanut Butter seems to be an excellent general purpose bait.

                                  Being a humane chap; I bought one of those box traps with a see-saw inside … the little mouse was so light and nimble that it climbed-in, took the bait, left some droppings, and climbed-out again.

                                  The ultimate insult was when it chewed through the corner of the box [from the outside] and took the bait without the trouble of using the see-saw.

                                  MichaelG.

                                  #179083
                                  mechman48
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                                    @mechman48

                                    'The ultimate insult was when it chewed through the corner of the box [from the outside] and took the bait without the trouble of using the see-saw.'

                                    … Ah! these country bumpkins are not as daft as we make them out be

                                    George.

                                    #179085
                                    John Stevenson 1
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                                      @johnstevenson1

                                      You are not supposed to use cheese in mouse traps, it's not good for them.

                                      #179087
                                      donkey
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                                        @donkey

                                        Can't tell how big they are but droppings are large. I will buy traps and jar of peanut butter tomorrow. Forgot to say I was in uk so visitors were not raccoons or bears.

                                        Brian. Ps why when I press return does it jump to the top and not a new line.

                                        #179089
                                        Clive Hartland
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                                          @clivehartland94829

                                          Rodents seem to be attracted to live cabling and will chew the plastic covering, I have found on a friends farm 3 phase cables stripped completely bare. I replaced it with armoured cabling and they stripped the outer plastic sheath!

                                          Regards bait, a slice of apple is good as they often are needing fluid. The droppings are a sure sign of habitation so go for it with snap traps. They are cheap enough. I do not like poison as they can end up outside and raptors will perhaps find them.

                                          Here in the garden since a year gone I have shot 12 rats of various sizes and next door has trapped 15, they come through from the fields and take up residence near the takeaway joint in the shopping center.

                                          Clive

                                          #179091
                                          donkey
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                                            @donkey

                                            Hi fizzy, do you mean life threatening for me or visiting rats.

                                            Brian

                                            #179092
                                            martin perman 1
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                                              @martinperman1

                                              I favour a cat, when I go into our garage to work he follows me in a checks over the place, havent had mice for years, apart from the odd dead one our feline fetches in just to prove he's doing his job and in return we give him the odd bit of food and lots of fuss, trouble with traps are should you not have a mouse for a while and you forget to check it leaves a bit of a smell which isn't immediately obvious smiley

                                              Martin P

                                              #179093
                                              Muzzer
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                                                @muzzer

                                                We had a mouse that ate its own body volume in industrial grease stick and a family of rats that had a liking for glass fibre loft insulation. They really will eat almost anything. My dad poisoned the rats which took their revenge by dying in the most awkward places and made the most godawful stink and filthy mess. It even soaked through the plasterboard in one place.

                                                Traps have worked fine for me although the last rat managed to escape several metres before finally demising. I found it several days later in the dark and wet in my slippers. It was a solitary creature of habit that we saw doing its rounds most days, so was easy to nab. Probably quite old and grumpy, with a few tales (tails?) of parting off to tell.

                                                Merry

                                                #179097
                                                Neil Wyatt
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                                                  @neilwyatt

                                                  A proper longworth trap is a good idea for any workshop, and will outlast the plastic ones.

                                                  I have a sherman trap which has the advantage it will catch anything from a small woodmouse up to a decent-sized rat.

                                                  When we moved into this house I caught 15 mice (humanely) and had to deal with a rabbit midden in the front room =8-0

                                                  Neil

                                                  #179103
                                                  Enough!
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                                                    @enough
                                                    Posted by donkey on 09/02/2015 13:14:16:

                                                    Forgot to say I was in uk so visitors were not raccoons or bears.

                                                    …. you haven't lived until you've had a family of raccoons take up residence in you attic (the babies wake up at night – while you're sleeping down below – and cry for Mom & Pop who are out foraging). The usual method of politely getting them to move out again is to put something in there that smells really obnoxious to them. Pine disinfectant is pretty effective.

                                                    I wonder whether a similar trick could be used against mice/rats. If you can stand it, you could leave some around all the time and perhaps they won't bother in the first place.

                                                    #179105
                                                    Neil Wyatt
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                                                      @neilwyatt

                                                      Try grey squirrels.. at least raccoons don't eat the wires and pipework…

                                                      In my old job we used to recommend a combination of a light switched on and off at random, radio WM and Jeyes fluid.

                                                      In fact our administrator used to recommend Jeyes Fluid for deterring just about everything from foxes to solitary bees, until the Department of Agriculture Food and Fisheries got in touch to point out it had NOT been approved as a pesticide!

                                                      Neil

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