Pinkgrip

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

No more nails stuff that really works

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Never heard of it in my life until I volunteered to strip the plastic tongue in groove rubbish from my bathroom walls, revealing the old tiles from the 1970s underneath

The plastic "planks" had been glued on with reddy pink stuff which I later found out is called Pinkgrip

I started by using a hammer and chisel but that was a bit slow and am now stripping it off using a small crowbar

Oh boy does it set hard and hang on tight, I was seriously impressed with how strong it is and how much effort has been needed to get the plastic off

So I went down to Asda and got a tube of no-more nails for 8 quid and tried sticking a few bits and pieces together

Wot a load of rubbish, total pants, even 2 days later its still soft and I can still scrape it off with a nail

Anyway I ordered 10 tubes of pinkgrip for 20 quid from ebay delivered and started sticking stuff when It arrived today

Plastic to metal, wood to metal, wood to brick, wood to breeze block it doesn't need a porous surface, just a hard brush to remove any dust, slap it on and jam them together

Going to be particularly useful in the garage for hanging wooden battens direct from the breeze block, (I don't like drilling holes in breeze block) and from any spare surfaces on my steel shelving units

Curing time is 24 to 48 hours

[Ian HewsonParticipant @ianhewson99641]

It was recommended by the suppliers of the wooden stairs nosing I fitted last year, was a bit dubious when I saw the odd colour and cheap price, but the proof of the pudding as they say.

Stuck it on and it’s still there, walked on every day!

[David ColwillParticipant @davidcolwill19261]

Always good to know about stuff like this.

Thanks.

David.

[Brian WoodParticipant @brianwood45127]

Ady,

When I built my workshop I glued wooden battens to the inside surface of the breeze blocks using Evo-Stik Gripfill which comes in green card tubes the same size as Pinkgrip.

Gripfill is a non environmentally friendly solvent based product, whereas Pinkgrip is I believe water based. To hold the battens while the adhesive set I just nailed them on with 4 inch galvanised nails and in some places the load those are handling now under the insulation board cladding sheets is truly staggering.

I had the choice of Pinkgrip at the time but was doubtful about it's long term performance, I already knew the properties of Gripfill .

So thank you for some useful information for the future.

Regards

Brian

Edited By Brian Wood on 27/10/2018 11:13:48

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by David Colwill on 27/10/2018 11:02:39:

Always good to know about stuff like this.

Thanks.

David.

Yes, but read the MSDN. No reason not to use this with mild precautions, but note it says on the label 'Not for Amateurs'. Compared with DIY Store alternatives it needs to be handled with a tad more respect.

Dave

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 27/10/2018 11:32:35:

No reason not to use this with mild precautions, but note it says on the label 'Not for Amateurs'. Compared with DIY Store alternatives it needs to be handled with a tad more respect.

Dave

I think that's what is known as advertising.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Brian, the yellow tubed Gripfill is solvent free and what I tend to mostly use as it has a better open time than the solvent based ones.

I Like Pinkgrip, it has given me a steady stream of work as it is often used by bodgers or for things it does not suit and I get to go back and put the problems they cause right

[Brian WoodParticipant @brianwood45127]

Thank you Jason, more useful information.

I don't remember seeing the yellow tubed Gripfill at my local plumbing supply company, but without knowing of that version I was looking for green tubes. I have found a tight fitting nail inserted down he nozzle after use will extend the open time quite significantly

Having also looked at the Data Sheets for Pinkgrip, I stand corrected as that too is solvent based

Brian

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Brian, by open time I was refering to how long the adhesive stays wet on teh surface, the solvent based ones can skin over quite quickly if you don't work fast enough.

You can also get "PinkgripSF" which is their solvent free version and I best not mention the Evo-stick solvent free "Sticks like Sh*t" or the faster setting "Sticks like Sh*t Turbo" as well as a whole load more.

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

What would you chaps recommend for sticking Kingspan to the inside of a steel garage door?

 

 

TIA,

Rod

Edit: photos added

Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 27/10/2018 15:12:05

[JOHN MOSLEY 1Participant @johnmosley1]

Yes I would like to know, pinkgrip failed on my metal garage door to stick foil backed insulation.

[Brian WoodParticipant @brianwood45127]

Rod and John,

Pass. My knowledge, see earlier, extends to bonding to breeze blocks, at which these adhesives excel.

Maybe Silicone sealant in a good thick bead is correct for your application as this is unlikely to attack the foam in Kingspan and it should get a grip on foil. It is not a grab adhesive though so you will have to hold it in place until it sets.

Others may have direct experience

Brian

[Antony PriceParticipant @antonyprice56876]

Hi Rod and John

The problem might be the different expansion rates of the metal to the insulation. Try SikaFlex 512, which is the product used for mounting solar panels on campers/mobile homes…to quote the manufacturer "Sikaflex 512 is a flexible adhesive to allow different materials to expand and contract at different rates"

Most importantly make sure that both surfaces are abraded and cleaned. Sikaflex instructions say 3mm bed minimum.

Just one note of caution! Its good stuff, once its set you will need to chisel it off to remove it

 

Tony

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

It might not need much to hold it. If in full sheet form, I would cut it to exact size and secure with self tapping screws through holding strips.

My workshop door (a single) has a patchwork of 25mm pieces, as it is braced awkwardly, then a sheet of 25mm over those pieces. The stiffening bits on the door were conveniently about 25mm deep, so all fitted in nicely. I may well fit yet another 25mm sheet on the other side of the door as it is inside a garage. No risk of a howling gale catching mine, mind.

[Robert Atkinson 2Participant @robertatkinson2]

+1 for Sikaflex for Kingspan to steel door. It's used to hold commercial vehicle panels and trim together, not just solar panels on. Alternative similar product is Tigerseal.

On safety precautions for PinkGrip v DIY products. It actually the consumer products that are more hazardous than professional ones. The reasoning is that a professional is exposed to the product every working day for years while the consumer might only use it one a week, month or year. Under COSHH and REACH many workplaces ban the use of "consumer" cleaning products.

Robert.

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

I stuck panels of 25 mm Recticel insulation onto my garage & entry doors with 'No nails' quick grab adhesive; 8'x4' panels were cut to width to fit in panels so ea.sheet covered 2 panels. they've been on for about 4 year now & still solidly stuck on…

Before…

After…

Insulation keeps the inside above dew point & at a fairly consistent 6-8 * C even when the outside has been down to – 3*.

George.

[egaParticipant @ega]

If using Kingspan it may be worth considering the ply-faced version.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 27/10/2018 14:48:35:

What would you chaps recommend for sticking Kingspan to the inside of a steel garage door?

Glue.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

More seriously, silicone should work well but apply it as thick, well spaced beads as this is far less likely to work loose when affected by cycles of temperature.

Neil

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Mirror Adhesive such as Dow 817

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