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    ChrisH
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      @chrish

      I have a number of small model engine bits and items that need cleaning and thought perhaps an ultrasonic cleaner would be jolly useful. So looked on-line and it appears Amazon do a number of cheap ultrasonic cleaners for under £50 and a few over £50 too.

      Does anyone have any experience of buying and using one of these – are they any good?

      All feedback welcome!

      Chris

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      ChrisH
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        @chrish
        #514220
        alan-lloyd
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          @alan-lloyd

          There was a thread on here about them, if I remember correctly you need one that's over 400 watts to be anygood

          #514221
          nigel jones 5
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            @nigeljones5

            Beware the cheap ones arent ultrasonic despite what the advert might say. I did a fair bit of research and didnt buy one in the end as any half decent one was bigger money than I wanted to spend.

            #514222
            Grindstone Cowboy
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              @grindstonecowboy

              Quite a few years ago, I got one of the small, plastic-bodied cleaners (around £20), which worked reasonably well, but only for about 12 months. So got one of the rectangular looking, stainless bodied ones, with a heater (around £70) – they seem very generic and a common design no matter where you buy them – and so far it works well and continues to work for about three years so far.

              I use it with Seaclean solution, and it cleans nicely – not miraculously, but worthwhile – but is quite noisy. If it breaks, I'd probably get another, probably move up a size to one with a drain tap.

              Hope this helps.

              Rob

              #514236
              ChrisH
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                @chrish

                Yes I did look at pevious threads but they were a while ago and I just wondered if anyone had some up to date experience of a modern one, seeing as how technology moves faster than one can keep up with! Thought perhaps the cheaper ones might have improved a bit, or the previously more expensive ones maybe come down in price.

                Giving a brand and maybe a model number of a good one would be appreciated, but it needs not to be too expensive otherwise it gets hard to justify.

                Chris

                #514241
                Ramon Wilson
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                  @ramonwilson3

                  Chris

                  I bought one of those 'cheap' oval shaped cleaners ( about £25 or so) quite a few years ago for cleaning airbrushes of acrylic paint build up. It is still in use today but to be honest I often ponder if it really is 'ultra sonic' or just some other less esoteric means of vibrating the fluid.

                  For paints I put the individual parts into a small jar of solvent then place that in the water. What I can say is it definitely works to my satisfaction and you can see the paint disintegrate quite rapidly so I guess it must be kosher to a degree.

                  Certainly works on your glasses too

                  Ramon (Tug)

                  #514248
                  Oily Rag
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                    @oilyrag

                    I had a magnesium bodied dry sump pump that needed cleaning badly (badly because it was crudded up! not badly in not cleaned very well) and I looked on eBay for what was available, I needed one that was about 15 to 20 litres tank capacity; the one I found that appeared to fit the bill was advertised as £110 and better still was available from Leicestershire, East Midlands and they had 2 in stock. So I enquired whether they could give me the internal tank dimensions to check if the pump would fit inside. I got back a very strange pigin English reply, with absolutely no information as to the tank dimensions, from a .HK email that raised my suspicion that this was coming from East Asia not East Midlands i.e China! I asked if I could pick it up but was told delivery would be 2 – 3 weeks.

                    I know magnesium castings can be quite difficult to clean in anything other than an ultrasonic bath, although methyl dichloride is an excellent degreaser it can dissolve the magnesium pretty rapidly if left too long. I got in touch with a local company that ultrasound cleaned mine for a donation to their tea school. They use heated tanks (80C) and a good fluid which did a brilliant job and the casting came out looking like new – I needed it well cleaning as it was then going off to get 'black chromed' (hexachromium dipped).

                    Still pondering whether to invest in a small tank though!

                    #514249
                    Grindstone Cowboy
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                      @grindstonecowboy

                      My second (current) one is a Sonictune unit – strangely, their website now doesn't seem to have any actual cleaners for sale, only a few accessories, so not sure what's going on there. They are UK-based as far as I am aware.

                      Rob

                      #514258
                      Nigel Graham 2
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                        @nigelgraham2

                        Try Decon.

                        That is the make of the ultrasonic cleaners we used at work, perfectly well though we were not trying to flush out filthy engine auxiliaries best given a good wash in paraffin first to remove the worst clag.

                        Some were simple ultrasonic-only, some also had heaters with temperature control; but all genuinely were ultrasonic cleaners..

                        The units came with wire work-baskets resembling those used in chip-shops, but we never put the work-pieces in jars or anything. That practice was lauded on a thread on this site a while ago, and appeared an example of On't'Net-So-Must-Be-Right lore, not a cleaner manufacturer's suggestion. I pointed out it could reduce the efficiency by the jar reflecting a lot of the ultrasound waves back off its outer surface unless its own material's acoustic properties match those of the cleaning solution (detergent in water). I should add the items we were cleaning were sonar transducer components, se we did know a bit about sound bouncing around in water!

                        #514264
                        Ramon Wilson
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                          @ramonwilson3

                          'That practice was lauded on a thread on this site a while ago, and appeared an example of On't'Net-So-Must-Be-Right lore, not a cleaner manufacturer's suggestion.'

                          Hi NIgel

                          I mentioned this because that is what I do – whether it's 'urban myth' or not as efficient I don't know but I do know that as soon as the unit is switched on paint begins to disintegrate quite rapidly from the parts within the jar.

                          I didn't follow anyone's advice on't net, here or elsewhere but tried it because it was fairly obvious I was not going to fill the entire cleaner with a solvent (cellulose thinner in this case) – it just seemed the logical thing to try.

                          I don't say it's right but I can say it works – well for me at least wink

                          Tug

                          #514268
                          Grindstone Cowboy
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                            @grindstonecowboy

                            Agree with Tug, it works for me too. And not that long ago I saw an ultrasonic cleaner manufacturer's website listing glass jars and a special holder for the express purpose of using small amounts of solvent immersed in the main water bath. Of course I can't find it now crying

                            Rob

                            #514278
                            David Davies 8
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                              @daviddavies8

                              Ultrawave ultrasonic cleaners are made in Wales, at Cardiff. They may have something suitable.

                              I have no connection with this firm.

                              HTH

                              Dave

                              #514288
                              James Alford
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                                @jamesalford67616

                                I was given what is now quite an old Aldi, £20.00 ultrasonic cleaner. It is one of the small, plastic-bodied machines.

                                With a proper cleaning fluid, or just washing up liquid on lighlty soiled parts, it has proven invaluable for cleaning things like a distributor, carburettor, door locks mechanisms, screws, door hinges and the workings of a windscreen wiper motor, all form an Austin Seven.

                                James.

                                #514292
                                Bob Stevenson
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                                  @bobstevenson13909

                                  I have a small ultrasonic cleaner with a four inch (or so) bath…it was twelve quid about ten years back and works surprisingly well on small items and parts including my wifes rings and jewellery, my pocket knife once a year, small screws and fittings for clocks, bits of camera shutters and lumps of brass musical instruments (brilliant for cleaning the valves)

                                  It's definately NOT 'ultrasonic',…in fact well subsonic! it's really better described as a 'vibration cleaner' but works well enough to be handy as described. It's worth remembering that the vibration of cleaners is aided/hindered by how the machine is mounted or supported…in industrial settings ultrasonic cleaners are often mounted in a concrete block to enhance the vibrations. With my little cleaner I often put a heavy book on top to reduce surface movement and this aids cleaning a lot.

                                  #514293
                                  Paul L
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                                    @paull58212

                                    I bought this one from Amazon. it was £105 but its worked handsomely for the last 2 years. I think its a digital one now.

                                    Ultrasonic Frequency: 40KHz
                                    Ultrasonic Power: 45-150W
                                    Heating Power: 300W
                                    Tank Material: Stainless Steel
                                    Tank Capacity: 6L
                                    Tank Size: 30x15x15cm(LxWxH)

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                                    #514301
                                    John Hinkley
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                                      @johnhinkley26699

                                      It wasn't that long ago – July 2020, issue 295 – that a home-brew one was described in MEW, if that's your bag. I can't vouch for its efficiency, of course, and only skipped through the article. But it is an option to fill the days in the workshop.

                                      John

                                      #514305
                                      Nick Wheeler
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                                        @nickwheeler
                                        Posted by James Alford on 19/12/2020 08:30:58:

                                        I was given what is now quite an old Aldi, £20.00 ultrasonic cleaner. It is one of the small, plastic-bodied machines.

                                        With a proper cleaning fluid, or just washing up liquid on lighlty soiled parts, it has proven invaluable for cleaning things like a distributor, carburettor, door locks mechanisms, screws, door hinges and the workings of a windscreen wiper motor, all form an Austin Seven.

                                        I have a similar, although slightly bigger, machine. It's normally full of a washing-up liquid solution because I use it for cleaning jewellery, watch bracelets, spectacles etc.

                                        But I do use it on car parts, and swap to one of the water soluble degreasers. This did a good job on 3 really grotty E-type carburetors, although it wasn't a quick job. That didn't really matter, as reassembling the whole car wasn't a quick job

                                        #514322
                                        Samsaranda
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                                          @samsaranda

                                          Tempted to buy an ultrasonic cleaner but would only need a relatively small one for the workshop, would need one with a stainless inner, have reservations about Chinese Stainless Steel after the experience with our outside lamp at the front door, it has rusted terribly. It seems most of the ultrasonic cleaners originate in China are there any UK brands that are available in the same price range?
                                          Dave W

                                          #514340
                                          roy entwistle
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                                            @royentwistle24699

                                            Dave W Try Walkers Electronics. No connection just a satisfied customer

                                            Roy

                                            #514344
                                            Tony Pratt 1
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                                              @tonypratt1

                                              Allendale electronics are in the UK but not sure where their bits are from?

                                              Tony

                                              #514365
                                              Neil Wyatt
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                                                @neilwyatt

                                                I had a cheap plastic one years ago that was next to useless.

                                                My heated Allendale one works very well in contrast.

                                                Neil

                                                #514371
                                                Ed Duffner
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                                                  @edduffner79357

                                                  We have one at work, purchased last year from ebay. I think it has 2 litre capacity. We bought the proper carb' cleaner (also from ebay) which mixes with water and the chap who cleans the parts in it says it works very well.

                                                  It apparently can be the difference between a carb' working or not. It's used on plant hire machine service and customer repairs.

                                                  I'v not used it myself but have seen it in operation. A slight criticism would be the lid rests on the tank, metal to metal and can make a bit of a racket.

                                                  Ed.

                                                  #514373
                                                  Grindstone Cowboy
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                                                    @grindstonecowboy
                                                    …. not that long ago I saw an ultrasonic cleaner manufacturer's website listing glass jars and a special holder for the express purpose of using small amounts of solvent immersed in the main water bath. Of course I can't find it now crying

                                                    Rob

                                                    Ah, there it is!

                                                    #514386
                                                    Nicholas Farr
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                                                      @nicholasfarr14254

                                                      Hi well I've had the one in the bottom of this Thread for nearly ten years and although it's not the bee's knees and I don't use it regularly, it does work and does a reasonable job of most things and I've even cleaned the inside of small bottles that stand upright above the water level in the tank, by filling the bottle up to the top. I think it has four timed settings that can be selected and it came from Maplin's at the time.

                                                      Regards Nick.

                                                      Edited By Nicholas Farr on 19/12/2020 16:54:10

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