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    Michael Gilligan
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      Those three came-out well, Dod

      And yes, the movement is much less corroded than mine:

      p1100177_s.jpg

      … But, I notice there is some corrosion on your plate retaining screws; so I suspect you will find more when you strip it down.

      It looks like a Mercer movement … is it ?

      MichaelG.

       

      Edited By Michael Gilligan on 17/04/2016 21:46:39

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      #235167
      Dod
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        @dod

        Hulloo Michael G

        Yup, its a Mercer, is that a good or bad thing?

        #235168
        Michael Gilligan
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          Posted by Dod on 18/04/2016 20:08:54:

          Hulloo Michael G

          Yup, its a Mercer, is that a good or bad thing?

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          Assuming it's 'of a certain age' … Definitely a Good Thing.

          See here and here

          By the looks of yours, it would be well-worth working on.

          MichaelG.

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          That one of mine is too far gone [the plates are very pitted]

           

          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 18/04/2016 20:31:02

          #235176
          Dod
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            @dod

            Them 3 photos were the only usable ones from the 35 I took, great things digital cameras as that would have cost a fortune if I had had them developed.

            I think the gauge may be aged from round about 1970 ish.

            Thanks for the advice, looks like a strip down job so will have to look out the small screwdrivers and magnifying glass.

            #235181
            Michael Gilligan
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              Posted by Dod on 18/04/2016 20:59:10:

              I think the gauge may be aged from round about 1970 ish.

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              Definitely worth trying to fix it then … Built by Chronometer makers !!

              I remember marvelling at the wheel-cutting machine, when I visited them in St Albans.

              MichaelG.

              #235225
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                @mgnbuk

                If it is a tenth thou (0.0001&quot resolution Mercer , it may be beyond redemption. In my previous employment I used to use calibrated equipment for checking rebuilt CNC machines & found that the high resolution Mercer guages got sticky and unreliable for no apparent reason. These were cosseted, final inspection only guages, independantly certified & kept in original boxes until required, yet they would not give reliable results after a couple of uses. I cannot recall having had one sucessfully repaired.

                I moved to a 0.001 mm resolution Mitutoyo, the independant calibration certificate for which showed 0.001 mm error over it's 1 mm stroke – it may have been better than that, as IIRC there was an uncertainty of measurement given of 0.001 mm. That guage always worked when required – as has every Mitutoyo dial guage I have used.

                Nigel B

                #235326
                Dod
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                  @dod

                  Made in St Albans. According to the dial face its a 0.01mm resolution so much finer than the ba hair accuracy I'm used to working to.

                  Clue :- when turning gauge face up to refresh memory of the accuracy there is a distinct click, same when turning to look into back, happens every time gauge is turned over and didn't hear that before exposing to solvents.

                  I would attempt to repair it anyway as I get great satisfaction in successfully repairing basket cases of anything mechanical and nearly as much if a repair does not succeed.

                  Edited By Dod on 19/04/2016 21:08:30

                  #235329
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    Posted by Dod on 19/04/2016 21:08:14:

                    I would attempt to repair it anyway as I get great satisfaction in successfully repairing basket cases of anything mechanical and nearly as much if a repair does not succeed.

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                    yes That's the attitude.

                    … Best of luck with it.

                    MichaelG.

                    #235649
                    Dod
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                      @dod

                      yes It works, dunno what was up with it, dismantled it and didnt see anything amiss or messy so cleaned anyway and reassembled it. Found the rack drops under gravity before fitting the spring so a happy smiley bunny.

                      And I am not going to correct the deliberate mistake p4210020.jpg

                      #235653
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        It was just craving some attention.

                        MichaelG.

                        #235702
                        Neil Lickfold
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                          I had a sticking Blake coaxial indicator. After getting it cleaned out and freed up using Shellite or in English terms liquid Naptha. I lubricated it with unscented baby oil , ( it says it is paraffin oil)sparingly on the jewels and a little on the bronze bush. When oiling the jewels you want just a very tiny amount so that it's surface tension keeps it in place. Too big of a drop and the surface tension can't keep it there and it will run away or off the jewel dimple. In clock making there a re lots of different grades of lubricants.

                          It's been a while now since using it and used it last week, and it was fine and free in it's movement.

                          Neil

                          #235722
                          Martin 100
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                            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 18/04/2016 20:21:46:

                            Assuming it's 'of a certain age' … Definitely a Good Thing.

                            See here and here

                            That second link led me to here **LINK**

                            It's pretty scathing of many manufacturers/brands.

                            I've half a dozen dial / lever mechanical indicators at my disposal, (Mercer, Mitutoyo and Starrett iirc) a couple near untouched from the factory and others that were more beat up cleaned and serviced a decade or more ago by a watchmaker friend, but last I checked quite a few had gone stiff despite being in what I'd call quite reasonable storage conditions – in a toolmakers cabinet, in a centrally heated area with VCI paper in the drawer. There is certainly no rust on anything else in there

                            I've long lost touch with the watchmaker friend, so this time it's going to be a DIY job with, I suspect, a dab of brake cleaner as my eyes are not up to dismantling,

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