Lidl Portable Bandsaw

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Posted by clogs on 25/11/2020 10:57:36:

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I dont live in the UK anymore but a friend could order/collect their Plasma cutter for me…..

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Have you seen this on offer recently?
I might be in the market for one myself.

Cheers
Bill

[KEITH BEAUMONTParticipant @keithbeaumont45476]

Having followed this thread I ordered the Scheppach Aldi version and it arrived yesterday. I have not unpacked it yet other than to take out the instructions. The opening paragraph says "The portable metal band saw with speed setting isexclusively suited for cutting wood,tubes,profiles and non-ferous metals".The instructions are 90% safety warnings of every description, but not much else.That is the only referance to metal cutting, although wood is mentioned several times. Several metal sections are shown in a how to position it in the vice diagram, but no round section is shown.. I am now wondering if this is not capable of cutting MS bar. I do not use beyond EN 8 in my model work and would expect the saw to be capable of cutting this.Has anyone else got this Scheppach saw up and running and is it capable of cutting MS?

Keith

[Ian HewsonParticipant @ianhewson99641]

Hi Keith

Set mine up last week, it cuts 30mm round bar with no trouble, seems a solid piece of kit.

Ian

Edited By Ian Hewson on 03/12/2020 10:22:52

[Martin of WickParticipant @martinofwick]

Keith, it is a perfectly capable steel cutting saw out of the box, especially  if it came supplied with an M42 blade. I had no trouble hacking off pieces of 80×30 hot roll steel – no idea what grade. It did charge through a piece of 1/2 in silver steel, but I don't regard that as much of a challenge for this tool. cutting bright  bar up to 40mm was no problem as long as workpiece is well secured. 

Just readback for set up tips and tension appropriately, select a sensible speed for the material – I use 1 or 2 for steel to avoid heating the blade too much. Use dry, do not press down on the saw handle when cutting, just lightly support the weight as it cuts through the workpiece. In sticky metals, or aluminium it sometimes helps to take the pressure of the blade occasionally to allow gullets to clear before progressing- you will sense when the blade bogs down, skips or galls.

The main problem is the supplied vice especially with small bar (say 30mm and below). As supplied, the jaw has a tendency to lift and the work can shift causing all sorts of trouble. Easily fixed by applying any or all of the vice mods suggested by myself and others in previous posts.

In some ways a better device than my CY90 and certainly cuts at 3 time the speed, but if you have sensitive hearing that you wish to protect, get some ear-plugs

 

Edited By Martin of Wick on 03/12/2020 11:10:53

[KEITH BEAUMONTParticipant @keithbeaumont45476]

Hi Ian and Martin,

Thanks for your swift replies. I will now take it all out of the box and put it together. I will certainly follow the previous tips on working with it. I will report back later when I have got it running. I will only be using it in the horizontal bench mounted position ,as I already have a two speed vertical wood band saw ,fitted with a metal cutting blade.

Keith

[KEITH BEAUMONTParticipant @keithbeaumont45476]

Band saw now assembled and tested with a 1 inch diameter piece of EN1A and it went through it ,dead square in about 30 seconds. Had a fumble getting the blade in,until I realised the tension lever still had more movement. It is very stiff. It all seems a sturdy piece of kit and I am now pleased with it.

Keith

[Keith FoxParticipant @keithfox28514]

Any suggestions?

I succumbed to buying the Aldi band saw after having returned the Lidl band saw.

I just inserted the blade into the band saw and tightened it up fully. Put the covers back on, didn't put on the stand, plugged in and pressed that on/off button.

The motor runs, but the blade doesn't go round. Took it apart, put it back together again, changed the speed to low and high and still nothing.

Took it apart again, took blade off and tried running it carefully without the blade and without the 2 plastic covers on, still the motor starts up, but nothing turns.

Not really sure how it is meant to work, but did see mention in the instructions of a v-belt, so maybe it could be that.

Any thoughts on my problem are most welcome.

Keith

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

but did see mention in the instructions of a v-belt

Best place to to start checking.

[Keith FoxParticipant @keithfox28514]

It's a question of how far to disassemble it rather than returning it and going back to the angle grinder.

[KEITH BEAUMONTParticipant @keithbeaumont45476]

I have had a search of my copy of the instructionsand the only reference to a vee- belt is where they list items that wear out. The exploded view does not help either as there is no list of parts to the numbered items. I cannot see anything that looks like a vee-belt, which must be positioned at one of the ends of the motor I would think.

You are clearly unlucky with your purchase of band saws, but it looks like this one has to be returned too.

Keith

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Couldn't resist the improved Aldi offer and have now joined our merry band of chopper uppers

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

A chap here has a simple system for helping the blade cut properly

I will probbly try using a bungee cord

[IanTParticipant @iant]

Posted by Ady1 on 06/12/2020 08:46:32:

A chap here has a simple system for helping the blade cut properly

I will probably try using a bungee cord

Some interesting points Ady and worth trying I think.

I guess he's a bachelor too. I showed my wife this video and she has revised her view of my 'inside' workshop – It seems I'm much tidier than she had always imagined!

Regards,

IanT

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Tell her you'll only run the bandsaw when the adverts are on and she'll be fine

[Henry BrownParticipant @henrybrown95529]

Good spot Ady, thanks! The cardboard box is a great idea if you are using the saw in the living room! Seriously though he seems to have got that one working very well, I'll go have a play with mine later…

[Ray LyonsParticipant @raylyons29267]

I had no idea that this topic would have had so much interest. Picked up quite a few useful tips. Like the video of the guy working in his living room. No going out in the cold shed . SWMBO would never allow but we can only dream.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Got mine and cut a useful 1 inch cube out of an old ratty end of rebar

Runs a lot quieter than I expected and cuts fine with the supplied m42 blade

set mine at 3.5

[Dr. MC BlackParticipant @dr-mcblack73214]

Ladies & Gentlemen

On a previous visit to this thread, somebody mentioned reversing the jaws of the clamp – so that the jaws were nearer the cutting blade.

I've re-read the whole thread (twice) and cannot find that posting.

This is probably because I'm old and senile – but can anybody point me at that posting, please?

With seasonal greetings and my very best wishes to you and your families for a Happy, Healthy, Peaceful, Successful, Prosperous and Stress-free New Year.

ours very sincerely

MC

[Keith FoxParticipant @keithfox28514]

I saw that mentioned in the YouTube link, where guy seemed to have his workshop in his living room.

Keith

[Henry BrownParticipant @henrybrown95529]

As Keith says, I think he said he had flipped it over it on the video. I don't really see the point on that side as the forces are moving away from that jaw, and peering at mine this afternoon if I did reverse it it would hit the edge of the body as it moved down. I was pondering if it might be possible to add an extra bit to the moving jaw, either weld a piece of 3mm plate on the blade end or bolt a complete extra longer plate across but it seems to work fine as it is.

[IanTParticipant @iant]

Posted by MC Black on 10/12/2020 16:59:20:

On a previous visit to this thread, somebody mentioned reversing the jaws of the clamp – so that the jaws were nearer the cutting blade.

I've re-read the whole thread (twice) and cannot find that posting.

This is probably because I'm old and senile – but can anybody point me at that posting, please?

 

Probably Clive's comments about there being too much overhang between the vice and the blade MC.

You cannot "just" reverse the vice – it won't fit. I extended my clamping 'plates' over to the blade side (see first page) such that there was very little gap between them and the cutting blade – and the support is much improved. However, the blade doesn't pull the work into the fixed jaw but away from it – so it runs the wrong way to my mind. However, you cannot (simply) turn the vice around. Maybe that's what you were thinking of.

Regards,

IanT

Edited By IanT on 10/12/2020 19:35:43

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

It's the sort of tool where a little kit of bits, especially around the vice zone, can expand its already useful purpose

[KEITH BEAUMONTParticipant @keithbeaumont45476]

I also found it curious that the cutting forces are loading the movable jaw and not the front fixed one. Do all metal bandsaws run this way.? When purchasing alternative blades,the direction of the teeth is not specified, so I assume they all do.

Keith

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Posted by KEITH BEAUMONT on 10/12/2020 20:41:04:

I also found it curious that the cutting forces are loading the movable jaw and not the front fixed one. Do all metal bandsaws run this way.? When purchasing alternative blades,the direction of the teeth is not specified, so I assume they all do.

Keith

One could certainly fit the band ‘the wrong way’ on any band saw.🙂 So either direction of cutting can be accommodated.

[IanTParticipant @iant]

Posted by KEITH BEAUMONT on 10/12/2020 20:41:04:

I also found it curious that the cutting forces are loading the movable jaw and not the front fixed one. Do all metal bandsaws run this way.? When purchasing alternative blades,the direction of the teeth is not specified, so I assume they all do.

 

Keith

Well on my INCA (wood) bandsaw I initially thought the replacement blades I'd purchased were "wrong-hand" Keith – however the light finally dawned and gripping the blade in both hands – I turned it inside out – and now the teeth point in the right (or is it left?) direction   

Regards,

IanT

PS So it's the direction the motor turns in that's important…

 

Edited By IanT on 10/12/2020 21:25:46

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