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    Mark Piper
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      Mark Piper
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        @markpiper47133

        Hi,

        I am thinking about building a 5" gauge Speedy as my next project and have purchased the construction manual to get an idea of the work involved, but I have heard that Don Young made some changes to LBSC's design.

        Can anyone tell me what these changes are and why they were introduced?

        #159775
        John Baguley
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          Hi Mark,

          The big problem with Speedy is that the valve gear as designed by LBSC is very poor but Don Ashton has designed a new version which gets over this. Don Young may have had a go at it as well but you should go with Don Ashton's version. He's the bees knees with valve gears.

          There is a good thread running on the MECH forum by two people building Speedys which you may find useful.

          John

          #159791
          Ady1
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            @ady1

            You can also find various speedy valve gear comments via the online index

            The valve issue was in the postbag

            e.g. From ME no 3200

            SIR,—As I am about to begin
            work on the valve gear of the 5in.
            gauge Speedy I was interested to
            read the letters of Mr Robertson
            and Mr Smith in Postbag.
            The combination lever propor-
            tions given in the working drawings
            with a piston stroke of 2-1/8 in. give
            a valve movement of only 0.145 in.,
            and are not, therefore, correct for
            the given valve lap of 5/32in.
            (0.15625 in.), as this would leave the
            valve blind by 0.011 at the end of
            the piston stroke, consequently pro-
            viding no lead.
            It would seem that the simplest
            modi¿cation to correct this error

            would be to retain the existing com-
            bination lever proportions and re-
            duce the lap on the valve from
            5/32in. to 1/8in. This would provide
            a lead of 0.02. If a lead of 0.02 in.
            is considered too large, a lap of
            1/8in. plus 0.01 in. could be used.
            I would be grateful for any
            further information or comments.
            Shaldon, R. E. VOKE.
            Devon.
            [While we agree that the existing
            combination lever proportions could
            be used if the lap is reduced to
            0.125 in. with 0.020 in lead, we think
            that you will obtain better results
            by using the original 0.156 in. lap,
            with, say, 0.015 in. lead. The com-
            bination lever could then be made

            0.40 in. and 2.485 in., the second
            dimension being taken, of course,
            from the upper pinhole. The drop-
            link would also have to be shortened
            a little to avoid too much angularity
            of the anchor (or union) link.
            We understand that the main
            trouble with the SPEEDY valve gear
            was insufficient valve travel. We do
            not see why you should not obtain
            a full gear valve travel of 11/16 in. by
            increasing the throw of the return
            crank (and its length) and by in-
            creasing the movement of the re-
            versing arm, as long as the total
            angular swing of the expansion link
            does not exceed about 45 deg.-
            EDITOR.]

            Edited By Ady1 on 05/08/2014 11:06:21

            #159798
            julian atkins
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              hi mark,

              you might also find the following wiki site of use, the following being the page on the valve gear and shows the excellent don ashton modifications

              http://building-lbscs-speedy.wikia.com/wiki/Valve_gear?file=Modified_geometry.jpg

              cheers,

              julian

              #159856
              Mark Piper
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                @markpiper47133

                Many thanks to you all for the information.

                Mark.

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