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  • #229271
    David Colwill
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      @davidcolwill19261

      Whilst looking on the "bay" I came across this lathe of a type I haven't seen before and wondered if anyone knew what it was.

      **LINK**

      It looks like quite an interesting find.

      Regards.

      David.

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      David Colwill
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        @davidcolwill19261
        #229275
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          I don't recognise it, David

          But, the chain drive, curious tailstock, and the drilling head all make it a bit 'special'

          It might be a great restoration project.

          MichaelG.

          #229279
          MW
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            @mw27036

            It's a great price but i doubt it'll stay that good for long, even i was tempted to bid until i saw how long it's got left.

            The price of some of tother stuff makes retail prices look good.

            Michael W

            #229280
            ega
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              @ega

              The tailstock at least looks shop-made.

              #229285
              Eugene
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                @eugene

                Echoing Michael, a lovely project.

                Just the wrong time for me though, I have still to finish refurbing the long bed Myford M type and its cabinet / stand, plus there is a house move on the horizon.

                It'll probably sell for peanuts and I'll be kicking myself, no matter what.

                Eug

                #229298
                Ajohnw
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                  @ajohnw51620

                  I'm inclined to think that the whole thing is home made. If it was closer to me I would go take a look to see if I am correct.

                  John

                  #229331
                  David Colwill
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                    @davidcolwill19261

                    Well can someone please win it! Perhaps Neil can help fund the purchase by publishing an article about it.

                    Regards.

                    David.

                    #229332
                    MW
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                      @mw27036

                      I'd happy walk away with it if only to take that awful coat of rust off it.

                      Michael

                      #229336
                      Neil Wyatt
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                        @neilwyatt
                        Posted by David Colwill on 10/03/2016 14:08:22:

                        Well can someone please win it! Perhaps Neil can help fund the purchase by publishing an article about it.

                        Good Idea – I'll pace a bid

                        Neil

                        #229484
                        daveb
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                          @daveb17630

                          Have a look at http://www.lathes, unknown lathe no.64.

                          Dave

                          #229487
                          David Colwill
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                            @davidcolwill19261

                            That certainly is the one, it's still in the same shed!

                            Thanks for looking through the previous 63 pages Dave smile p

                            We still need to find a new owner for it.

                            Regards.

                            David.

                            #229488
                            Ajohnw
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                              @ajohnw51620

                              Interesting. When I said home made I had a toolmaker in mind 'cause some of the parts look fabricated.

                              Slightly related my Father told me that as a toolmaker they were allowed to do what ever they fancied to solve problems during WWII as they came up. He mentioned a lathe of a sort that was built for a specific job that needed pretty high accuracy. They set the parts up with a theodolite and then held them in place by casting them into concrete.

                              It makes me think this is some ones foreigner unless there are several about. It's hard to see that as a one off for a specific purpose. More a general purpose set up.

                              My father's attitude about me obtaining a small really precise lathe was why not make it yourself pointing out that standard mild steel sections are accurate to a few thou. I sometimes get tempted.

                              If anyone is tempted he reckoned a slant bed would be ideal. Probably correct and for a simple feed steel tape drive. That has been used in the past.

                              John

                              #229504
                              nigel jones 5
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                                @nigeljones5

                                THe milling head is certainly home made as the parts are fabricated and welded rather than being cast

                                #229520
                                Ady1
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                                  @ady1

                                  Have a look at http://www.lathes, unknown lathe no.64.

                                  Well found that man

                                  #229526
                                  Danny M2Z
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                                    @dannym2z

                                    Here's another oldie up for sale in Oz **LINK**

                                    I did not realise that lathes were that old!

                                    * Danny M *

                                    #229533
                                    Ian S C
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                                      @iansc

                                      From my reading it was not uncommon prior to WW2 for a model engineer to buy, or have cast, a lathe bed, and from that build his own, as in books such as "the Amateur Mechanic & Work Handbooks" "Small Lathes, Making and Using" first printed in 1920, my copy is the Australian edition 1943, plans there for a2 1/2" centre lathe with back gear and slide rest.

                                      Ian S C

                                      #229535
                                      Roderick Jenkins
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                                        @roderickjenkins93242
                                        Posted by Danny M2Z on 12/03/2016 09:53:54:

                                        Here's another oldie up for sale in Oz **LINK**

                                        I did not realise that lathes were that old

                                        Metal lathes like that aren't. 1880 maybe. As usual, Tony's site has the real data **LINK**

                                        Cheers,

                                        Rod

                                        #229541
                                        MW
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                                          @mw27036

                                          The history of a lathe in the most basic sense is extremely old, you think, anything that needed a relatively round wheel (without it being too bumpy) needed a lathe.

                                          #229546
                                          Ajohnw
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                                            @ajohnw51620

                                            I'm not so sure he always does have the right data Rod. One thing on lathes in general is that slide rests appeared more recently than hand turning rests. That I suspect might make it more recent than 1820 for this sort of lathe.

                                            The gunfight in the ok corral was in 1881. Who knows what went on generally with company registration in this period and before it.

                                            John

                                            #229551
                                            ega
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                                              @ega

                                              Extract from English & American Tool Builders by J W Roe 1916:

                                              Take the slide-rest. It is clearly shown in the French
                                              encyclopedia of 1772, see Fig. 3, and even in an edition
                                              of 1717. Bramah, Bentham and Brunel, in England, and
                                              Sylvanus Brown, in America, are all said to have
                                              invented it. David Wilkinson, of Pawtucket, R. I., was
                                              granted a patent for it in 1798. But the invention has
                                              been, and will always be, credited to Henry Maudslay, of
                                              London. It is right that it should be, for he first designed
                                              and built it properly, developed its possibilities, and
                                              made it generally useful. The modern slide-rest is a
                                              lineal descendant from his.

                                              PS Maudslay's famous screwcutting lathe of c 1797 had a screw-operated cross slide but, seemingly, no top slide.

                                              Edited By ega on 12/03/2016 11:36:22

                                              #229561
                                              Ajohnw
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                                                @ajohnw51620

                                                laugh I should have used the word generally ega – based on a book that I think appeared in the late 1800's aimed more at home / one man turners that splits the slide rest off from being run of the mill and worth having. Hand chasers were often used for screw cutting well past this period – bit like us – making do with what we have.

                                                Hasluck seems to have updated the book to the 2nd edition in 1883

                                                The facilities on some old engineering lathes often surprise me.

                                                John

                                                #229563
                                                KWIL
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                                                  @kwil

                                                  Interesting main spindle drive, reminds me of a cycle "derailleur" gear changer.

                                                  #229564
                                                  MW
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                                                    @mw27036

                                                    flat bed slides came before any other form of slide because its the simplest one. lathes were not always screw cutting variety either.

                                                    #229567
                                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                                      @michaelgilligan61133

                                                      Maudsley

                                                      **LINK**

                                                      MichaelG.

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