sieg c2 motor

[npuParticipant @npu]

hello,

can anyone suggest me a place online (europe) where i can buy a spare motor for a mini lathe?

thank You very much

[npuParticipant @npu]

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

You can try Warco, Chester, SIEG, Amadeal, Arc Euro Trade or Axminster in the UK for a start.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Am pretty sure that Arc EuroTrade will be able to supply, They certainly used to list spares for the C2.

Hopefully, any Importer of C2s will be able to supply spares, for Cieg machines.

Howard

[npuParticipant @npu]

thank You very much for a fast replay.

i tried arc euro trade( sent 2 emails in the last 2 weeks, no response, perhaps they are on holiday), warco said that they only support their products. i sent a mail to amadeal too (i see a motor on a web but the tech data are not the same as mine..), i tried paulimott too, the answer is the same as warco…

my mini lathe is from 1978….

perhaps You know some other dealer from europe, not only uk dealers…?

thank You

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Unusual, Arc Euro are usually very prompt.

Suggest that you check the E mail address that you used.

Howard

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by npu on 18/12/2018 19:40:28:

thank You very much for a fast replay.

i tried arc euro trade( sent 2 emails in the last 2 weeks, no response, perhaps they are on holiday), warco said that they only support their products. i sent a mail to amadeal too (i see a motor on a web but the tech data are not the same as mine..), i tried paulimott too, the answer is the same as warco…

my mini lathe is from 1978….

Very strange for Arc not to respond, try their contact form: http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/contact.aspx

I didn't realise that the Chinese models dated back to 78, or is yours a Russian one?

Not suire of any European dealers.

Neil

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Hello npu,

I have just been directed to this post by Howard.

SIEG factory was born in 1988. So, if your machine is a 78 model, it is from elsewhere probably?

If your machine is a SIEG C2, the spares for it are on this page. You need to check and make sure that the part you have looks exactly like the products in the pictures on that spares page. If they don't, please don't make a purchase.

We do not appear to have an email requesting a motor for a C2. However, please send me a personal message with your email address, by clicking the 'Message member' link below this message, or give Arc a call and speak with Ian.

Ketan at ARC

[npuParticipant @npu]

as i understood, my lathe is from 12month of 1978 year. (i will put a photo). definitely it is a usual chinese mini lathe and a motor from the arc site will suit..

hello Ketan, perhaps i lost Your reply in a spam somewhere, sorry. i tried to buy from ARC but firstly my card was denied (visa electron- the same used for paypal, so maybe this is a problem). i tried to enter somewhere my Vat number to get a discount (the shipping cost for croatia are high so this was an option), but i did not figure out how to do it. now i have a new visa card so i can eventually try again to complete a purchase. i bought some equipment and tools 5-6 years ago from ARC and all went well.

thank You

[npuParticipant @npu]

i tried to post some pictures…

Edited By npu on 19/12/2018 17:13:59

[npuParticipant @npu]

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=34ism1c&s=9#.XBp7myx7mUk

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qwe808&s=9#.XBp7DSx7mUk

Edited By npu on 19/12/2018 17:13:30

[npuParticipant @npu]

[npuParticipant @npu]

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Hello npu,

What I am saying is…. if the machine is from '78, it is not from SIEG.

You say that the motor from ARC 'will suit'. It is up to you to check from our website if it will suit. However, if you buy it and if it fails to suit, then there is no returns option. We sell this product as an electrical component. It is checked before dispatch, and we do not accept returns of electrical spare parts. Also, we are unable to check if this motor will be correct for your machine. So, if you purchase an electrical spare – such as this motor, it is at your own risk.

I say this with the greatest of respect.

Ketan at ARC.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

The number stamped on the bed is a serial number.

I will ask SIEG if it is one of their machines, and let you know once I have an answer.

Ketan at ARC.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

You might also want to contact one of these dealers of Sieg machines that may be a bit closer to home

Sieg Distributors

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

Isn’t “Wemas” a German Machine Tool manufacturer/supplier? Just a thought.

[npuParticipant @npu]

[npuParticipant @npu]

[npuParticipant @npu]

i tought that the number was a year of production… all the spares from ARC fitted the machine (bearings, gears, etc… ) so i am sure the motor is the same too..

thanks

[Ron LadenParticipant @ronladen17547]

npu, the ARC motor in Ketans link certainly looks the same as yours and you can also check the motor details (sizes etc) in the link. The only thing I noticed is the ARC motor is 250 watt whilst your lathe label quotes 400 watts but that could be just wishful thinking by the manufacturer at the time.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Looks much like my Clarke 1998 CL300M, although it is the shortest 10" between centres version I think mine is SIEG, serial number 91435.

Clue – for the date of manufacture, look at the supplied 3-jaw chuck, these often do have the year on, at least with older mini lathes.

Neil

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by npu on 19/12/2018 17:16:20:

Your machine was born at SIEG in 1996, serial number 1278.

At the time, your motor was sourced from an outside component supplier, and now it is produced in-house.

In theory, a new C2 motor should be an equivalent replacement. However, ARC's policy of non-return of electrical component spares such as this, still stands. Our reasons are based on a range of factors which we do not care to disclose – and we say this with the greatest of respect, pre-sale.

Secondly, if you purchase a hobby machine electrical spare as a B2B purchase (i.e. without VAT), it is considered to be a business sale of a hobby machine electrical spare – which is not rated or classed for business use, and additional exclusion terms will apply.

At the check-out there is a provision for EU B2B customers to place an order without VAT, by following the process stated on our website.

Once the order comes through, additional VAT checks are made, as, for security reasons, we only ship to VAT registered address. Provided this process is okay, and because your requirement is for a motor (or control board), ARC will send you an additional email asking you to accept our exclusion terms. Once you accept the terms by return email, the order is dispatched.

It may seem that ARCs policies on motors and circuit boards are a bit strong. These apply mainly to supply of such spares to customers who have not made the initial purchase of the machine from ARC. This policy is born out of experience. Whilst ARC is happy to serve and is grateful for such orders, it is difficult to ascertain parentage of such machines, causes of failure, and ability of person to fix such problems.

Many such 'broken' or 'damaged' machines have turned up in probates and auction sites, where the previous owner has either died, or put up said machine for sale for other reasons. The new owner purchases such a machine at very low cost, and wishes to fix it. In the fixing process, either a wrong motor/board is purchased, and/or damaged in the fixing process. ARCs prices are very competitive, but it is difficult for ARC to consider returns for these spares, as often it was found that such components were damaged upon return. As a result, this policy was born.

This policy may be difficult for some to consider. We understand and respect this view.

Keeping the above in mind, if npu finds difficulty in considering ARCs policy, or if he finds difficulty in going through the on-line purchase process, we understand, and we are happy to direct him to the other distributors mentioned in Jasons link.

Now that it is clearer that it is a C2 machine made by SIEG, npu can consider and make his choice for where he purchases the spare from.

Ketan at ARC

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

So mine was 1435 of 1999?

Would make sense it was an early 1999 machine as teh original chuck is marked 1998 and I bought it in Machine Mart as a customer return in 1999.

Neil

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 20/12/2018 12:21:17:

So mine was 1435 of 1999?

Would make sense it was an early 1999 machine as teh original chuck is marked 1998 and I bought it in Machine Mart as a customer return in 1999.

Neil

I would guess so.

Ketan at ARC.

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