Record vise SQ3 assembly might be missing something

[Joseph MassiminoParticipant @josephmassimino72240]

I recently took my Record SQ3 vice apart and cleaned a painted it. I am sure what I've done was right, but, when I have the vice up-right, it won't engage the screw, but when I turn it upside down it works. The problem goes deeper, there is only one way that the mechanism that grabs the screw to go, it fits into a cutout, so there is only one way for that. Then the part that gets the pin can only go one way, as you can't put the pin through it in any other position. I have one part that might be from the vice, but I don't know where it would go, and I'm sure it is to spread the jaws apart for the free outward movement. The part is made of spring steel and has two fingers, and a round section that would not fit over the screw easily, so I left it out. it has a lip on it, so I really am puzzled about where it might go. Does anyone have any assemble drawings of any of these vises. I love the vice, and I hope to get it back on my bench soon.

[Joseph MassiminoParticipant @josephmassimino72240]

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Hello and welcome, there's an exploded diagram on a fitters vice half way down this page but I don't know if that helps.

Never heard of an SQ3; is that a swivelling version of a quick release version of a normal No.3??
Is it modern or ancient?

Bill

[Joseph MassiminoParticipant @josephmassimino72240]

I will see if I can post a picture of the vice. I bought it new about 10 years ago in an Odd Lot's store. When I took it off the shelf and looked in the box, I knew it was a high quality vice. It does have an area to hold a pipe, and it does not have a lever for opening the jaws, all you do is turn the handle as you are going to open it, and pull, it , it then will slide open.

As I said, it only works correctly if i hold it upside down. Since the parts can only fit in one way, i think the one part i have left is the key, i just don't know where it goes.

The part it made of spring steel, and it looks like it can fit over the screw. I just don't see how it fixes this problem.

The vice can swivel, but it does not have hand nuts, it takes wrench to loosen the vice to turn it.

I thought I could find a blow-up drawing of the assembly of this vice, or another that works in a similar way.

[Joseph MassiminoParticipant @josephmassimino72240]

My Vice does not work like any of the Vices on the page you directed me toward. It does not use a lever to reverse, it automatically releases when you turn the handle to back out.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Joseph,

This may not be good news, but, a Google search for SQ3 finds this: **LINK**

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-70162.html

… in which there are two references to the SQ3 being Chinese.

If it's given good service, I wouldn't worry … but you might find it very difficult to obtain spares or diagrams.

MichaelG.

[Joseph MassiminoParticipant @josephmassimino72240]

So I went to take a second look at the extra part. it is the part that relaxes the threaded parts that wrap around the screw. So i took it all apart, and examined the two parts, and i could see that the two parts can fit together. The notch in the one part went into a track cut into the other part. When you turn the screw one way, it closes the opening that it screws into, causing it to get tight. When you turn the screw to loosen it, the fingers relax and let the jaws open, letting you pull the vise open freely. It is a much cheaper version of the vise that would have a lever mechanism. It now works as it should.

I shlould have taken a closer look when i noticed the extra part. I just didn't see it fall out when I took it apart, then I noticed it in the parts and started wondering where it came from. That is because when it is off the screw, it can come apart easily.

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