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  • #343178
    Speedy Builder5
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      @speedybuilder5

      Question paper:-

      Question 4. Do you know any other number systems besides decimal? If you do, turn to page 6 otherwise continue on page VI.

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      #343186
      colin vercoe
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        @colinvercoe57719

        Definition of an Expert, X = unknown quantity and a spert is a drip under pressure.

        #343188
        duncan webster 1
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          @duncanwebster1
          Posted by colin vercoe on 25/02/2018 18:06:19:

          Definition of an Expert, X = unknown quantity and a spert is a drip under pressure.

          Ex as in has been, sprurt ………

          #343189
          MW
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            @mw27036
            Posted by Mick B1 on 25/02/2018 13:09:41:

            Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 25/02/2018 10:08:47:

            Posted by Mick Charity on 25/02/2018 07:33:32:

            The primary function of design is to make it difficult to fabricate & impossible to service.

            "design", a much mis-used word now. Originally from the Latin designare meaning to mark out or devise. Now too often used to mean something arty.

            Russell

            Arty? Some people think a sandwich can be a "designer" item!

            I think it's the kind of "oh look at me, I got something that was made so thoughtfully" kind of logic, broken down into simplicity of course. cheeky

            Michael W

            #343357
            Robbo
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              @robbo

              I saw an RAC Patrolman parked in his van. He was looking at his SatNav and sobbing uncontrollably.

              I thought " he's heading for a breakdown"

              #343358
              Hopper
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                @hopper

                8,000 Pounds for a Myford lathe.

                #343360
                Billy Bean
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                  @billybean67480
                  Posted by Hopper on 27/02/2018 05:03:09:

                  8,000 Pounds for a Myford lathe.

                  Not funny.

                  #343377
                  MW
                  Participant
                    @mw27036
                    Posted by Hopper on 27/02/2018 05:03:09:

                    8,000 Pounds for a Myford lathe.

                    Years ago, they would've laughed and now it's true!

                    Michael W

                    #343381
                    Mick B1
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                      @mickb1
                      Posted by Billy Bean on 27/02/2018 07:21:14:

                      Posted by Hopper on 27/02/2018 05:03:09:

                      8,000 Pounds for a Myford lathe.

                      Not funny.

                      Yep, that really is Machine Tools For The People, ain't it just?

                      You're right – not really a joke, it's a hopeless shame.

                      #343388
                      Juddy
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                        @juddy

                        The lakota tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.

                        However, in business we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following:

                        1. Buying a stronger whip.
                        2. Changing riders.
                        3. Saying things like "This is the way we always have ridden this horse."
                        4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
                        5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
                        6. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
                        7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
                        8. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
                        9. Comparing the state of dead horses in today's environment.
                        10. Change the requirements declaring that "This horse is not dead."
                        11. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
                        12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
                        13. Declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat."
                        14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance.
                        15. Do a CA Study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
                        16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
                        17. Declare the horse is "better, faster and cheaper" dead.
                        18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
                        19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
                        20. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
                        21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position

                        #343389
                        Graham Titman
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                          @grahamtitman81812

                          Myford lathe only a poor copy of a Atlas which has power cross feed

                          #343390
                          Dave Halford
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                            @davehalford22513
                            Posted by Hopper on 27/02/2018 05:03:09:

                            8,000 Pounds for a Myford lathe.

                            How much is one of the new ones then?

                            Edited By Dave Halford on 27/02/2018 10:52:23

                            #343391
                            Martin 100
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                              @martin100

                              Using the manufacturing techniques Myford used to use you might see why 8k was the price to the customer.

                              But with the 'new Myford' it's difficult to see how it's ended up the same price. For sure it's a lot more 'complicated' than a boxy relatively rough piece of cast iron from the far east, and it's almost certainly better finished but it's one hell a lot of money for not much metal. It only comes with one chuck and is powered by a 0.75kW motor.

                              But it's not actually '8k' its actually 8150 + VAT

                              A staggering £9780

                              To put that in perspective for 30k (plus VAT) you can buy a very capable (far east built with UK support) 3 axis CNC vertical machining centre with an 18" x 14" x 14" axis travel, an 8k CAT40 spindle with a 7.5kW motor (machine weight 2.6 tonne) or for that same 30k (plus VAT) a CNC turning centre that will swing a foot diameter, a foot long, with a 12 station turret, with a 6000rpm spindle powered by a 13kW motor (machine weight 3.2 tonne)

                              Of course neither of those will sit in the corner of a tiny shed but 9780 quid for just 180kg of machinery? That's 54 quid per kg or £24.50 per pound or £1.50 per ounce

                              #343398
                              MW
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                                @mw27036
                                Posted by Martin 100 on 27/02/2018 10:55:05:

                                A staggering £9780

                                 

                                nearly gets you one of warco's finest;

                                **LINK**

                                I agree, completely ridiculous when compared to the modern market.

                                Michael W

                                Edited By Michael-w on 27/02/2018 11:32:56

                                #343399
                                Hopper
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                                  @hopper
                                  Posted by Mick Charity on 25/02/2018 07:33:32:

                                  The primary function of design is to make it difficult to fabricate & impossible to service.

                                  The Designer

                                  The designer sat at his drafting board
                                  A wealth of knowledge in his head was stored
                                  Like "What can be done on a radial drill
                                  Or a turret lathe or a vertical mill?"
                                  But above all things a knack he had
                                  Of driving gentle machinists mad.
                                  So he mused as he thoughtfully scratched his bean
                                  "Just how can I make this thing hard to machine?"
                                  If I make this perfect body straight
                                  The job had ought to come out first rate
                                  But would be so easy to turn and bore
                                  That it would never make a machinist sore
                                  So I'll put a compound taper there
                                  And a couple of angles to make them swear
                                  And brass would work for this little gear
                                  But its too damned easy to work I fear
                                  So just to make the machinist squeal
                                  I'll make him mill it from tungsten steel
                                  And I'll put these holes that hold the cap
                                  Down underneath where they can't be tapped
                                  Now if they can make this it'll just be luck
                                  Cause it can't be held by dog or chuck
                                  And it can't be planed and it can't be ground
                                  So I feel my design is unusually sound.
                                  And he shouted in glee, "Success at last!
                                  This goddam thing can't even be cast.',

                                  #343400
                                  Philip Rowe
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                                    @philiprowe13116

                                    As this thread seems to have wandered slightly, I thought that I would add that in 1973 when I bought my Super 7 supplied new by an ironmongers in Worthing it cost me from memory about £380. As a basic machine it didn't come with any chucks or even a motor, however you did get a faceplate, catch plate and a couple of centres but I can't remember if it had a drive dog. An expensive piece of kit that was unusable as supplied.

                                    Phil

                                    #343401
                                    Billy Bean
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                                      @billybean67480

                                      What is the definition of an engineer? Answer: Someone who solves a problem you didn't know you had, in a way you don't understand.

                                      #343402
                                      Billy Bean
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                                        @billybean67480

                                        One afternoon, an engineering student was riding across campus on a shiny new bike. He ran into a friend of his, also an engineering student, who said, "Wow! That sure is a great bike. Where did you get it?"

                                        "Well, the darndest thing happened," said the first engineering student. "A girl came riding up to me and got off the bike, threw off all her clothes, and said that I could have anything that I wanted."

                                        "Wow," remarked his friend. "That's great. Good move. Her clothes probably wouldn't have fit you anyway."

                                        #343404
                                        Nick Thorpe
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                                          @nickthorpe64546

                                          I always remember that a new Triumph Tiger motorbike in 1973 cost £437 – I used to spend ages looking at one in the dealer's window in Camberwell. A quick look shows that new Triumphs cost between £8,000 – £10,000 so not wildly different to the price increase on Phil's 1973 Myford at £380 that now costs £8,000 plus VAT.

                                          Nick

                                          #343405
                                          Martin 100
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                                            @martin100
                                            Posted by Philip Rowe on 27/02/2018 11:30:53:

                                            in 1973 when I bought my Super 7 supplied new by an ironmongers in Worthing it cost me from memory about £380.

                                            Bank Of England Inflation Calculator

                                            £380 in 1973 = £4,368.98 in 2017

                                            You can buy a really good 5" chuck (Pratt Burnerd / Bison) for 300 quid (including vat) in todays money and a motor is around £150 for something still made in the UK, add in £1000 quid for a stand and a really posh hand polished powder coat / paint job and a bit under 500 quid for the inverter, control gear and chuck guard.

                                            Nope, still can't get anywhere near that 9780 quid

                                            #343412
                                            Hopper
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                                              @hopper

                                              A model engineer walks into a bar.

                                              "Damn," he says. "So that's where the one-inch silver steel got to."

                                              Edited By Hopper on 27/02/2018 12:10:11

                                              #343413
                                              Hopper
                                              Participant
                                                @hopper

                                                I always liked Neville Shute's description of an engineer, something like: A chap who can do for 10 bob what any fool could do for a Pound.

                                                But much prefer Tom Robbins' description in the book "Skinny Legs and All" of: The kind of guy who could mend the hinges on the gates of Hell if need be. (I have always tried to be that guy. )

                                                #343414
                                                Billy Bean
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                                                  @billybean67480

                                                  There is a seperate thread for the myford and its cost .

                                                  I have got the message that it is over priced, have decided against it so thank you one and all.

                                                  Anybody know a good joke, apart from the cost of a myford, so we can get this thread back on track please ?

                                                  #343415
                                                  Billy Bean
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                                                    @billybean67480

                                                    Normal people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

                                                    Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.

                                                    #343420
                                                    Billy Bean
                                                    Participant
                                                      @billybean67480

                                                      There was an engineer who had an exceptional gift for fixing all things mechanical. After serving his company loyally for over 30 years, he happily retired.

                                                      Several years later the company contacted him regarding a seemingly impossible problem they were having with one of their multi-million dollar machines. They had tried everything and everyone else to get the machine fixed, but to no avail. In desperation, they called on the retired engineer who had solved so many of their problems in the past. The engineer reluctantly took the challenge.

                                                      He spent a day studying the huge machine. At the end of the day, he marked a small "x" in chalk on a particular component of the machine and proudly stated, "This is where your problem is".

                                                      The part was replaced and the machine worked perfectly again. The company received a bill for $50,000 from the engineer for his service. They demanded an itemized accounting of his charges.

                                                      The engineer responded briefly:
                                                      One chalk mark: $1
                                                      Knowing where to put it: $49,999

                                                      It was paid in full and the engineer retired again in peace.

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