eBAY Charges

[steamdaveParticipant @steamdave]

Many German eBay sellers, it seems, do not accept PayPal.. When I purchased something from Germany recently, PayPal wasn't even an option. Bank transfer was how I had to do the deal. I looked at several other items for sale from different sellers and they were the same.

Dave
The Emerald Isle

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

When I sell on Ebay I make everything collect, this way i get pound notes, no paypal scam.

Also people moan about high P&P but it's virtually impossible for me to get to the PO during working hours.

Factor in having to pack the item, then the trip to the PO and our PO is in the centre of town with no handy parking, so now factor in parking fees and the waiting I'm lucky if I can get back to the shop in under the hour.

But if i charge an hours labour at commercial rates I'm a rip of merchant ?

I have stopped going to auctions as most of what is there is high priced rubbish, machinery is never under power, high commission fees, and remember you time and expense of travelling there, waiting around is out of your pocket.

Few years ago myself and my helper went to 3 auctions looking for a new lathe, all we saw was clapped out Colchesters and it finally hit me that 2 men, 3 days was one weeks wages and nothing to show for it.

So try and save the time and do the online auctions. Peaker Patterson [ guys who did Myfords ] had an online clearance sale with most things at their Peterborough base.

One item was a CVA with bits missing for spares or repair so can't get clearer than that but still worth it for bits.

'Won' it for £78 plus fees only to be told "Sorry withdrawn from sale" It was also in the following months sale and again a £96 winning bid didn't get it. Turns out they have a deal with their local scrap people where if it's worth more for scrap it get withdrawn.

Needless to say online auctions are now off my favourite list

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[clivelParticipant @clivel]

Posted by Ian Phillips on 22/11/2013 16:53:04:

I have bought items on eBay and been offered (and used) that service/feature.

I discovered later that regardless of the funds sitting in my PayPal account the money for those purchases was taken out of my regular bank account.

Not a large amount and not a big deal, but when I got the notification that the payments was to be taken I checked in PayPals T&Cs and it categorically states that PayPal funds will be used before charging my Bank or CC. Somewhere in the small print it might explains it but its easier for me not to use the P-A-D option.

Ian P

Was the purchase being made in the same currency as the balance in your PayPal account?

Being in Canada, I have noticed that when making purchases from UK dealers in £ with more than sufficient $CDN funds in my PayPal account, the payment was still being taken out of my regular bank account.

However, if prior to completing the sale, I first login to my PayPal account to transfer sufficient funds from my $CDN balance to a £ balance, then the payment is processed correctly by PayPal.

Interestingly enough, this doesn't happen for regular eBay auction payments where the foreign exchange conversion seems to happen automatically.

[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

In future, my stuff will go on Home Workshop (and similar forums) and if the selling price is 20% less for hassle free sale then that sounds like a bargain. I'm not looking to make money, just recycle stuff easily as my interests change so I can buy different stuff

But eBay want to treat me like a business, so the answer is find the sites for private sellers to trade their stuff.

Steve

Edited By Steve Withnell on 23/11/2013 18:47:11

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by clivel on 23/11/2013 18:31:13:

Posted by Ian Phillips on 22/11/2013 16:53:04:

I have bought items on eBay and been offered (and used) that service/feature.

Not a large amount and not a big deal, but when I got the notification that the payments was to be taken I checked in PayPals T&Cs and it categorically states that PayPal funds will be used before charging my Bank or CC. Somewhere in the small print it might explains it but its easier for me not to use the P-A-D option.

Ian P

Was the purchase being made in the same currency as the balance in your PayPal account?

Clive

In my case it was all UK pounds. Below is part of an email explanation Paypal sent me.

Ian P

Dear Ian Phillips,

Thank you for contacting PayPal.

In regards to your correspondence, the option for Pay After Delivery (PAD) given at the time when you make a particular payment. Pay After Delivery payments are available only for certain purchases. When the Pay After Delivery option is available for your purchase, you?ll see that option displayed on the Review Your Information page during checkout. Usually when PAD is used it would become the default funding facility.

When PAD is used, it bypasses the PayPal balance.

The following are some transactions that went through as PAD:

1.

2.

The advantages of PAD:

PayPal pays the seller immediately, but the buyer does not have to pay until 14 days later.

• Buyer does not have to pay if the item is not received or is significantly not as described.
• Buyer can put the scheduled payment on hold by opening a dispute.
• If no dispute is opened, bank transfer is initiated on day 14 .
• Paying after delivery gives buyers "extra peace of mind". There's no extra charge, no application, and no credit check. This option is only available for qualified transactions

I trust this helps.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

This looks a rather shabby way of doing business.

… Check the delivery charge.

MichaelG.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

That is a shabby way and overpriced to boot, for that price you can get a 6040 with ballscrews for the same price.

However after buying a laser cutter from one of the 'Portsmouth ' based companies there is a reason.

In my case the machine was in Portsmouth, it took 3 days to get here from purchase. All there is in Portsmouth is a bonded warehouse. You buy the item and once fees are paid to HMCR it's released and sent on it's way.

The high shipping price is because they have paid taxes in the UK which many don't and they don't feel that they should have to pay Ebay fees on import duty and VAT.

Long short is make your mind up whether the machine plus the 'postage' in total is worth it ? In my case it was nearly the same as buying one from China and having problems over import and VAT, knowing what I paid was the end of it, no follow on fees to pay.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by John Stevenson on 29/11/2013 09:17:41:

The high shipping price is because they have paid taxes in the UK which many don't and they don't feel that they should have to pay Ebay fees on import duty and VAT.

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Thanks for the explanation, John

From a "potential customer" viewpoint [although, to be honest, I was just browsing]; I suppose the problem would really be the "return" arrangements.

MichaelG.

[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

Anyone digested eBay's latest change to the TS and Cs? Something about using Argos as a pay & collect centre and obligations on sellers regarding paying for returns.

Steve

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