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steve lyons02/11/2012 19:12:21
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hi.

can anyone recomend a good, soluble, cutting fluid that I can use in my flood set up on my super 7.

I turn mostly mild steel and some stainless.

I have just finished a can I have had for years I think it was called

DROMUS OIL.

I have searched for it on line but cant find refrence to it, can anyone tell mewhere to buy some or recomend an alternative

thanks steve

Kevin F03/11/2012 15:01:38
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Check out this link

 .http://MAXSYN SLF Chlorine Free Semi Synthetic Cutting Fluid - 1 Litre

Edited By Kevin Fenrich on 03/11/2012 15:04:15

AB65804/11/2012 11:16:47
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Steve,

Shell Dromus B is available from a number of stockists in the UK (and other countries), of which one is BTLS/Hayley (no connection); Google Lubricants Supplies for details. If you search under the product name you will also find links to product application & MSDS info, as well as other Dromus variants not available in the UK. The smallest pack size is likely to be 20 litres, but this may be cost-effective if you combine your needs with others in your local ME society.

Adrian

Ketan Swali04/11/2012 11:22:19
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Posted by Kevin Fenrich on 03/11/2012 15:01:38:

Check out this link

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Edited By Kevin Fenrich on 03/11/2012 15:04:15

Above link doesnt seem to work. Try this one if it works:

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/Rock%20Oil%20Data/Maxsyn-SLF-TDS.pdf

Ketan.

Kevin F04/11/2012 11:55:19
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Posted by Ketan Swali on 04/11/2012 11:22:19:
Posted by Kevin Fenrich on 03/11/2012 15:01:38:

Check out this link

.**LINK**

Edited By Kevin Fenrich on 03/11/2012 15:04:15

Above link doesnt seem to work. Try this one if it works:

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/Rock%20Oil%20Data/Maxsyn-SLF-TDS.pdf

Ketan.

Thank you I'm still finding my way around the forum

John Stevenson04/11/2012 11:59:20
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It's brilliant stuff.

Just smear a tad of un-diluted on the back door knob as you are going out and Gert won't be able to get the door open to check up on you in the shed.

Last time I did this I got an extra 3 months shed time................

John S.

Trevor Drabble04/11/2012 12:12:46
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Steve,

May I suggest Cromwell Tools as a possible supplier since they are nation wide and carry a good range of such products.Only problem is they are in sizes of 5 litre upwards ; no problem if you can arrange to share with a few pals. No connection with company other than a satisfied customer. Alternatively, if you are near South Yorkshire can supply you with a small quantity, say 1 litre, of Pennine Lubricants Soluable Oil from a new full container.

steve lyons09/11/2012 15:00:30
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thanks for all your help and sugestions,

I can only find DROMUS B in 20 ltr drums, too large for me and no one to share it with,

so have gone with MULTICUT from CHRONOS,

5ltr for £26.75 delivered.

thanks again.

mechman4811/11/2012 23:52:32
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I have some 'Cetus' cutting fluid from years ago, dilution ratio 25:1, never had to use it yet..try dry cutting with indexible carbide tips .. tip radius 0.04-0.8mm on a reasonable high speed for MS .. 600 - 700 RPM.. thereabouts, dependant on machine & material ? .. flood set up on a MS7 seems OTT to me, more for a cnc/production setup? I envisage you would have more on the walls & floor than collected back in your system? try drip feed with white spirits & clean engine oil (SAE 20 - 40) mix, .. just a thought?

Cheers

George

Adam Harris28/05/2014 19:51:44
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Has anyone come across Silkolene "Silkutt 662 EP soluble oil"? I have acquired a 25 litre can unused but many years old. Unfortunately I cannot find any info at all on it via google and wonder if it is even safe to use. Currently I use Morris Supercut 4000 which smells ok and has the benefit of being see-through (translucent green), and is i believe quite safe being non-chlorine and low on VOC's. Any info on this Silkutt stuff would be much appreciated. Adam

Trevor Drabble28/05/2014 23:30:41
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Adam, I've just used Google Chrome "Silkolene" and it brings up a number of entries , including showing they are now part of the Fuchs group and that they still produce metal working fluids. Perhaps they have archive material which may be of use ? Hope this helps a little.

Trevor.

Adam Harris29/05/2014 00:01:38
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Hi Trevor, yes I too have learnt that they became part of Fuchs in 1989, and have contacted Fuchs but no answer. I was wondering if anyone in the forum had used this stuff but I suppose there must be so many cutting fluids made over the last 50 years that the chances may be slim
jason udall29/05/2014 09:31:59
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Used to like blaser 2000...veg oil based...
Just payed to have 1600 l disposed of....nearly as expensive to get rid off as buy!
Brian Wood29/05/2014 17:52:45
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Of general interest to all those living North of York, Smith and Allan in Darlington sell both their own blends of soluble and neat cutting oils in 20 litre drums, as well as other makes such as the Shell range.

www.smithandallen.com

Regards Brian

Neil Lickfold30/05/2014 08:00:56
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Knowing what I know now, I do not use soluble oil on my lathes at home. I prefer to use either small amounts of vege oil,(canola or what ever is the cheapest at the super market, where needed), or the light cutting oils.

I worked with some production machines that had oil only and others that had the soluble coolant. The machines that ran only cutting oil, had the least wear on the bed ways and were in the best condition. The machines that used soluble oil coolants had the most wear and were worse for it.

Neil

John McNamara30/05/2014 14:10:36
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Agree Neil L

For casual use Soluble oil is a pain. I only use it when I have to on my mill never on the lathe although both machines have it on demand. Its the cleaning up I don't like, as I don't use the machines every day. I don't like the way it stains the table under the vice on the mill, forcing me to remove the vice and any other fixture and clean up after the job is finished. I prefer to spray on neat cutting oil for most jobs. Soluble oil also tends to wash out the way oil on the slides. It also damages the paint on older machines.

On The mill when using high speed steel end mills and tooling taking heavier cuts there is little alternative to flood coolant if you want your tools to last.

One day when I feel like getting really dirty and stinky I will clean out the sump in the base of the machine, requiring you to remove a plate at floor level and reach in in a similar manner to a farm vet you know where.... to drag out the grunge at the bottom with a wet vacuum and rags.

Note: The last time I did this cleaning job I felt really off colour for several days after, I got a bad cough, and wondered at the time if it was caused by a bug in the mill sump.

neat oil is more expensive and not quite as good as water based in heat removal.

Regards
John

 

Edited By John McNamara on 30/05/2014 14:11:52

WALLACE30/05/2014 14:37:36
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I don't know if it's just me, but when I mix up a pint or two of the soluble oil you get from Chronos, I always give the neat stuff a sniff as it smells like a ripe dead whale....and I just have to remind myself how bad it is...

Yeh, I know, that's weird.

Mixed up is fine though, makes the garage smell like a proper workshop !


W.
Lee Wood 230/05/2014 15:17:19
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John M

You may be right about the bugs

HSE requirement now that my works have to have monthly Legionella and bacteria testing

Both my Bridgeports and one of my Colchesters had above average readings when we came back after Christmas - they had only been stood for 3 weeks

Makes you think doesn't it?

Ketan Swali30/05/2014 15:30:40
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Posted by Lee Wood 2 on 30/05/2014 15:17:19:

John M

You may be right about the bugs

HSE requirement now that my works have to have monthly Legionella and bacteria testing

Both my Bridgeports and one of my Colchesters had above average readings when we came back after Christmas - they had only been stood for 3 weeks

Makes you think doesn't it?

Do you work in some kind of food processing plant or a hospital environment?

If not, was this HSE requirement put forward by the local council or some Health and Safety consultant?

Some background information for the reasoning would be interesting to know, and understand.

Ketan at ARC.

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