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mick H07/12/2011 14:50:38
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Is anyone else experiencing problems accessing this site? I have a diabolically low broadband speed out in the stix ....1.77Mb/s and 0.3Mb/s upload. This is probably the cause but it would be nice to be sure before I attack BT.
David Hanlon07/12/2011 14:53:33
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I am reading this on a 2Mb/s line from Orange Telecom in the (French) Alps - it works for me ...
Best Regards
mick H07/12/2011 14:59:06
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I am getting the site but to swap between posts takes up to half minute with a message showing "waiting for model engineer" seems to be inferring that the site is to blame.
Obviously good quality Mb's in France!
Peter G. Shaw07/12/2011 15:05:09
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For a few days now I have been timed out when accessing some ME/MEW pages. Other forums are OK. Which suggests that there is nothing wrong with my individual broadband access.
Peter G. Shaw
David Hanlon07/12/2011 15:07:54
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I am flipping quite happily between posts with little or no delay (at least at the moment) so I guess French electrons travel faster - at least after a good lunch!
Good Luck
mick H07/12/2011 15:11:30
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And your electrons will have to go up quite a steep hill if you are in the alps. There can be no excuses here in horizontal Lincolnshire!
Robert Miller 107/12/2011 15:35:01
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Are you on a wireless network? If so, that may be the problem. I can top (or bottom) all as to speed, I have Xplornet's high speed (ha!) wireless here in Ontario, Canada and though I am paying for 1.6Mb/s their fine print says UP TO 1.6Mbs, which in reality means down from 1.6Mb/s - which of course includes 1b/s. The reality is that I am one of 60 users sharing a 6Mb/s 912 MHz channel. The bottom line is that usually PDFs etc download at speeds typically about 180Kb/s but I frequently see speeds as low as 32Kb/s.
That said, I have no problem accessing the ME forum, but there are usually considerable delays. The digital editions are pretty much hopeless at these speeds though. A downloadable version would be nice.
Terryd07/12/2011 17:12:53
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Hi Mick,
I have similar problems with slow loading and can usually get up to around 4mb/s ) but I often get the 'Waiting for Model-engineer' message and I have several tabbed home pages on my FireFox and this site is usually the last to load.
I am in a village at just about the limit of the line from the exchange, but we are going fibre optic this month that should improve the problem, fingers crossed.
Having said that hough I have noticed that the situation is worse with the upgrade to FF 8. Many pages are slow to load and it appears to be stuck in a cache somewhere as if I click reload a page will suddenly load. I am reporting this to Mozilla. Chrome is much faster but there are issues with some aspects of creating posts for this forum, but not others.
Hi David,
You're lucky to get 2mb/s in the Alps. In my property in Brittany we can only get dial up. At least until they decide to provide communal satellite facilities we've been promised for years.
Ian Hewson07/12/2011 17:48:58
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No problems in Yorks, using imac on Safari at 4.3mbps pages load in seconds.
mick H07/12/2011 19:11:49
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I recognise the same problems that Terry is experiencing with this site ie waiting for response and posting. I am using Chrome. Other sites seem to respond immediately. The problem has come on over the last week or so. I am also getting "this page has become unresponsive" messages but on this site only. If you are reading this, Peter Shaw is this what you mean by being "timed out" ?
Robert.......reading your post has left me thinking that I am being pampered by BT !
mgnbuk07/12/2011 19:21:39
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Is anyone else experiencing problems accessing this site?
Yes, pretty well every visit. Very long page load times. I don't think that the plethora of flashing adverts will help.
I'm running Firefox on Win XP (or Linux on another pc - just as slow) & have a 30Mb fibre optic connection that checks out at it's rated speed.
Don't have similar problems with other sites.
Nigel B.
Phil P07/12/2011 20:42:25
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Yes that is what I am finding as well.
If you drag the scroll bar on the RHS of the page it goes in a "jerky" motion, and each jerk corresponds to the adverts updating.
Peter G. Shaw07/12/2011 21:12:13
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Mick H,
Can't actually remember what the error message is, but it implies that the system has failed to connect within whatever time is allowed to make the connection, hence "timed out".
Although today's systems are nothing like what I was trained on, when I was employed by BT, even then certain parts of the system had specific time-outs for certain conditions, after which the would disconnect itself. A good example today would be that if you leave the receiver off and don't make a call, you will eventually be connected to the "howler" which produces that very loud noise to attract your attention. That is what I mean by timed out.
I am on Firefox v.8 on Win XP, use BT as my broadband supplier, and usually achieve a download of around 3MB. Don't know the upload. And as others have said, no problems elsewhere.
Peter G. Shaw
John McNamara07/12/2011 22:00:43
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Hi All
I do not have problems with the site speed. "Down Under" in Melbourne Australia I use Telstra cable. (Using internet explorer) Moving around the MEW site is fairly snappy... Yes cable is fast but only as fast as the site feeding it. this suggests to me that the difficulties some are experiencing may be ISP related rather than the site itself.
The right hand scroll bar is not jerky.
I do wish the editor handled word documents properly, even selecting "post as word" it does not always work.
The flickering adds are a a little annoying. however at least the MEW site does not use the pain in you know where..... "pop up" or even worse drag you off somewhere else advertisements that some engineering related sites use. (Or even worse the adds the force you to wait for so many seconds) Bah humbug to them.

Edited By John McNamara on 07/12/2011 22:07:04

Peter Hall07/12/2011 22:01:43
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Yes; I'm suffering from a slow reload rate too. It's never been very fast, but seems to have become worse over the last week or two.
It's probably a vain plea, but can someone get rid of the Flash ad content? I find all the animated stuff profoundly irritating and it clogs up the bandwidth as well as annoying people. Trust me; I am not a voice in the wilderness. I appreciate that the website is part of a commercial enterprise, but there are other ways of providing the required service without making things distracting and difficult for the users.
Only my two penn'orth.

Edited By Peter Hall on 07/12/2011 22:04:11

ady08/12/2011 00:42:46
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It's probably a vain plea, but can someone get rid of the Flash ad content? I find all the animated stuff profoundly irritating and it clogs up the bandwidth as well as annoying people.
Clever lad. Most problems are from bandwidth hogging advertising bloatware.
In Firefox tools/addons you can disable everything, which helps a bit.
A lot of it is now embedded in the modern browsers., you get zero options
I learned 15 years ago...keep your old "outdated" software or you will regret it.
I use Internet Explorer 4 if I'm in a hurry.
The old browsers have none of the supporting software that modern browsers employ.
It's a sort of conspiracy.
They tell you that the virus boogyman will get you...and then encourage you to download more bloatware packages.
Wikipedia is probably the biggest non-bloatware site left on the internet.
IMO Its convenience and speed of use have been a major factor in its success.
When you click on a link up to a hundred different sites from around the planet start loading their different bits for the page you view. has the fast bit, the message in text...but you won't see that until the huge queue of advertising stuff has loaded itself onto your pooter and then the page can display.

Edited By ady on 08/12/2011 01:05:39

Nicholas Farr08/12/2011 01:03:40
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Hi Mick, yes I too have had long delays for pages to load, and even had the message saying "web site not responing", other sites load very fast on the other hand.
Regards Nick.
ady08/12/2011 01:09:06
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If a priority advertisers' server does not respond, then the page will refuse to load.
On an old browser you will get a blank box with an "X" in it.
Some of you might have noticed that those blank boxes with the X in the top corner we got in previous years.....have now "disappeared"
Long live the democratic peoples digital eutopia...

Edited By ady on 08/12/2011 01:12:43

mick H08/12/2011 08:43:26
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Things seem to be much better this morning....much more responsive. Strangely, my download speed is down to 1.41Mb/s.
Martin W08/12/2011 09:47:40
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I have also noticed times when this site seems to be very slow to load or to change pages. This happens even though I am on a cable connection with a quoted speed of 10Mbps. Tests indicate that the average connection speed is very close to this figure.
One can get a very good indication of true connection speed using one of the speed checking sites such as this one. Again one has to navigate around the advertising blurb but the results seem to be pretty accurate giving 'ping time', 'download' and 'upload' speeds. If you want more information there is a facility 'Ping Test' that measures more parameters and gives a quality rating for the connection.

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