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jomac16/06/2011 12:06:41
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Hi, since the publishers forced Colin Usher to remove his index of ME & MEW off the web because of copywrite, I need to find the indexes for MEW, as I dont have all the issues, so other than drag out all the mags, (which at the moment are stowed away) is there a solution ???????. Or could this site put the indexes in say, the archives, or extras.

John Holloway

Terryd16/06/2011 13:03:46
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Try Here, You have to download the databases and a small program to search them. You can also get them from Colin Ushers site on this page
 
Regards
 
Terry
David Clark 116/06/2011 15:04:42
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Hi There
We did not tell Colin Usher to remove the indexes to Model Engineer and Model Engineers' Workshop.
We just stopped sponsoring his website so I assume he removed them.
 
You can't, as far as I am aware, copyright a list.
Certainly you can't with a list of ingredients for a recipe and I assume a list of the contents of a magazine is the same.
regards David
 
Terryd16/06/2011 16:02:00
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Hi David,
 
I would have thought that the compiler of the list would have any copyright that is applicable by being the author.
 
As well as Colin ushers (which is still on his website) there is also a good index here.
 
Terry
David Clark 116/06/2011 19:20:26
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As far as I know, you can't copyright a list.
regards David
 
Terryd16/06/2011 21:22:11
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Hi David,
 
Anything that is authored and original can be copyrighted.  These indices are more than simple lists they are searchable databases.
 
If I create a new recipe with my list of ingredients it is copyright. Try making your argument with Hester Blumenthal.  I suggest that you check with your legal dept.
 
Regards
 
Terry

Edited By Terryd on 16/06/2011 21:29:45

John Stevenson16/06/2011 21:43:14
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Posted by Terryd on 16/06/2011 21:22:11:

If I create a new recipe with my list of ingredients it is copyright.
Regards
 
Terry

 
Precisely your new list is YOUR copyright.
 
Now if someone reads MEW and makes a list up then it's THEIR copyright.
 
So if Colin makes a list up as opposed to just copying one which is a breach of copyright the list is HIS copyright
 
Other wise it will stop people reading books, getting information out of them and writing their own version.
 
I must admit I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on television or forums.
 
John S.

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Steve Garnett16/06/2011 23:01:31
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 16/06/2011 19:20:26:
As far as I know, you can't copyright a list.
regards David
 

Actually, as everybody else has asserted, it would appear that you very much can. Like John, I'm not a lawyer either, but the society of indexers has consulted one over this very issue, and his consideration of this is publicly available to read as a PDF - here. Seems pretty unequivocal to me...

blowlamp16/06/2011 23:40:05
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John Stevenson16/06/2011 23:51:33
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DerryUK17/06/2011 00:45:10
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My MEW index is here
 
Info on copyright is here
 
Derry.
Stephen Benson17/06/2011 06:59:25
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Posted by Derry Hincks on 17/06/2011 00:45:10:
My MEW index is here
 

Derry.

Thanks Derry a fantastic resource well done

Harold Hall 117/06/2011 09:01:13
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I have an index at
 
This displays the magazines content by subject, typically Welding, but does not list the full index with the issues in chronological order so is not ideal for John (Jomac) but may be of help. I will consider adding a chronological list when time is available.
 
Harold
 

Terryd17/06/2011 09:18:23
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Posted by John Stevenson on 16/06/2011 21:43:14:

Now if someone reads MEW and makes a list up then it's THEIR copyright.
 
So if Colin makes a list up as opposed to just copying one which is a breach of copyright the list is HIS copyright
 
Other wise it will stop people reading books, getting information out of them and writing their own version.
 
I must admit I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on television or forums.
 
John S.

Edited By John Stevenson on 16/06/2011 21:43:50

Precisely John,
 
My point exactly, for once we agree, what is the world coming to?
 
Best regards
 
Terry

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