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Trevithick's 1804 Loco

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The Merry Miller09/01/2011 19:03:18
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Is anybody aware of a source of drawings or even kits of parts (not Airfix) for the above loco.
I dont mind starting from scratch with just a set of scale drawings but it would be nice to get hold of some appropriate castings and ancillary metalwork.
macmarch09/01/2011 19:34:46
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According to a book I have Trivithick's engine of 1803/1804 does not have a complete set of drawings. There is a model of it in the Science Museum that is beleived to be basicaly correct.
macmarch09/01/2011 20:27:28
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Just had a look at another book. This contains a pic or 2 together with a couple of line dwgs.  I cannot scan it but if you go to your local library and ask them to get  this, then you can do the neccessary.
Railways: The Pioneer Years.
ed Fletcher and Taylor  pub 1990  The Bath Press.
ISBN  1 85170 363 2

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Terryd09/01/2011 20:44:16
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Hi MM,
You have probably seen this but it may be of interest,
JasonB09/01/2011 20:49:38
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Couple of pics of a model here
KWIL10/01/2011 08:53:43
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There is a working replica at Iron Bridge Museum.  Try the Trevithick Society.
jomac10/01/2011 10:17:38
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Hi  happy new year to all.

In this months Australian Model Engineer there is an article on this model built by Mark Watkins with some references to sourcing information.

PS its raining and getting warmer up to 29 degrees, Eat your hearts out, for those in the North, I think the pommy cricketers are enjoying it down here.

John Holloway

Ian S C10/01/2011 10:53:25
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Terry, I looked at the site you indicated, most interesting, go down to 1808, the circular track.  The person who persuaded Trevithick to compete had the name of Giddy, perhaps after riding the circular track?? maybe thats where the term comes from.  Ian S C
Laurence B10/01/2011 11:21:47
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There is a drawing/engraving of the 1804 (Penydarren) loco in "Life of Richard Trevithick"  written by his son Francis.The book quotes the following dimensions : cylinder 8-3/4" bore by 4'-6" stroke,with 3'-9" wheels,on a 4'-6" wheelbase.The boiler was 4'-3" diameter by 6' long.
There is a model of this loco in the Power House Museum in Australia,that was made by C.Mills and Associates (Middlessex) sometime in the 1940's. They also built the model Trevithick engine that resides in the Northgate Museum in Bridgnorth.
The only drawings and castings  for a model Trevithick engine that I am aware of are those sold by Brunell Engineering (assuming they are still in business) to a design by 'Tubal Cain' published in M.E. some years ago.However this makes up a Trevithick 'Dredger Engine',a somewhat different beast to the 1804 Tramway loco!
The replica at the Ironbridge Museum is of the 1803 locomotive.The loco Ian refers to is the "Catch Me Who Can" engine of 1808,that ran on the circular track somewhere near to where the present-day Euston station stands.The Severn Valley Railway built a replica of this engine a year or so ago.

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The Merry Miller10/01/2011 11:57:08
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 Just to whet my appetite still further I came across this video of the loco built by a Japanese engineer.
Believe it or not it is gold plated!!!
James fortin10/01/2011 12:26:13
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the national railway museum in york have a working replica i believe.
Chris B10/01/2011 18:10:58
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There is a bit on the Kinver and West Mids SME website about a 5" model of "Catch Me Who Can" they made a while ago.

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