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Robert George15/12/2010 02:55:47
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So, it's been a year, and I'm looking at the pricing (again) for North American Subscribers. 

The UK, EU, Australia, and New Zealand are paying  £ 42.00, which is $66 USD.  >>

ExpressMags is charging $89 USD, and $109 Canadian.  So for some reason, the US and Canada pay 30% more than the rest of the world for Model Engineer's Workshop.

How much longer will this continue?

Is anyone in North America going to renew? >>

Edited By Robert George on 15/12/2010 02:57:15

Owen15/12/2010 04:05:26
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I wonder how long this post will last? the last time this went round a lot of us were banned for some time or forever. I was promised by the web manager that somethig would be done to bring the Canadian price more into line with the ROW price. This was not to be.
Now I really like the magazine which is most unfortunate as I will not ,Indeed , can not accept the continued prejudice by the management of Model Engineer and MEW towards Canadians.
My subscription after many years will not be renewed.
Robert George15/12/2010 05:29:16
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Owen, if David deletes my post, he'll have answered my question.
 
I really like MEW as well -- it's excellent!  But somehow ExpressMags has managed to apply a levy to the North American subscriptions.  We've heard all the excuses: shipping and distribution to the US and Canada is higher than shipping and distribution to Australia and New Zealand.  ???
 
I really miss Wise Owl Publications -- they were good people
 
 
David Clark 115/12/2010 09:05:21
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Hi There
The subscription price for Model Engineer was reduced.
Canadians have a tax on magazines which the US does not.
Ebay conversion gives 129 Canadian dollars as 81.3747 GB pounds.
This is less than £3 more than ROW subscription.
 
However, 109 Canadian dollars is 68.72 pounds against 52.95 GB pounds.
I will see what is going on.
regards David
 
David Colwill15/12/2010 12:02:55
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Americans having to pay more than the Brits an outrage! This would never happen the other way round, would it? Sorry lads welcome to my life!
EtheAv8r15/12/2010 13:11:25
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I have to say.... welcome to our world! 
 
Usually things in UK are the same number of £ as they are in US$ or €.... i.e. we in UK always pay more!
KWIL15/12/2010 14:12:10
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Take Digital Machinist (if you must),  US $19.95, CAN$ 29.95  UK 32.95US$, now that is the same is it not??!!
Jeff Dayman15/12/2010 16:15:21
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I have no such special taxes, extra charges, or delivery problems with EIM. It is mailed directly from UK, as ME used to be, and I have had NO problems with delivery here to Ontario Canada. Frequently it arrives the first day of the issue month.
 
In contrast, typically I get my copies of ME and MEW 4 to 6 WEEKS after issue date.
 
Without getting into any arguments about content or no. of pages etc , the point is I GET the EIM magazines on time with good ME content, with no hassles, and at reasonable cost and without going through a flakey remailer service. Job done as far as I'm concerned.
 
MyHobbyStore could learn some lessons from EIM about delivery service and cost.
 
I am not a satisfied subscriber to ME and MEW because of these constant delivery problems and delays and the high prices.
 
JD
Robert George15/12/2010 16:26:42
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 15/12/2010 09:05:21:
Hi There
The subscription price for Model Engineer was reduced
 
However, 109 Canadian dollars is 68.72 pounds against 52.95 GB pounds.
I will see what is going on.
regards David
 

 Hi David,

I would greatly appreciate that!
 
ExpressMags is charging $89 USD, which is 57 GB pounds.
 
According to the web page, the UK subscription is 42 GB pounds?
 
Thanks!
 
Robert 
 
David Clark 115/12/2010 16:33:05
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Hi There
You won't get the UK price, rest of world excluding US and Canada is £52.95.
regards David
 
Jeff Dayman15/12/2010 18:30:36
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I just received a renewal offer letter from Expressmags for MEW.
 
They offer me 13 issues of MEW for $111.87 CAD, or $111.42 USD. (using today's exchange rate $1 CAD=$1.004 USD per Bank of Canada at noon).
 
If anyone cares, I'll make a photo of the letter and post it.
 
David, you mentioned the ROW rate at 52.95 UK pounds. Today's pound exchange rate is 1.566 UK pounds = $1 CAD. This works out to $82.96 CAD, not $111.87 as noted by Expressmags.
 
I really hate these funny goings on at Expressmags.
 
JD
David Clark 115/12/2010 21:12:52
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I said rest of world excluding US and Canada.
regards david
 
John Stevenson15/12/2010 21:25:42
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Funny isn't it?
 
The USA don't recognise there is a rest of the world when it comes to the USA ,
most Americans think Neil Armstrong was the first American to go abroad.
 
However when it comes to them being on the loosing side it soon gets dummies thrown out of prams.
 
Not that we will ever find the true cost out but it would be interesting to know how much MHS charges Express mags and their markup ?
 
John S.
Robert George15/12/2010 22:58:28
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For the other denizens here who aren't in on the joke, Sir John and I know each other quite well
 
David,
 
 Posted by David Clark 1 on 15/12/2010 16:33:05:
Hi There
You won't get the UK price, rest of world excluding US and Canada is £52.95.
regards David 
 
According to your web page, the UK price is  £42:
 
 
ExpressMags is charging £56.95, so where is the £14.95 going?
 
John: how about I pay you for a MEW subscription, and you drop-ship me the issues?  I'd rather you spend the extra £15 at the pub than ExpressMags pocket it. 
 
Cheers,
 
Robert
 
 

Edited By Robert George on 15/12/2010 23:00:45

Jeff Dayman16/12/2010 00:37:28
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To John Stevenson re above comments:
 
I have found that in general, comments such as yours about attitudes of people in other nations are short sighted. You are missing the point - if one nation is getting hosed today, it could easily be your nation getting hosed tomorrow. (wherever it may be)
 
I think the main issue is that there are certainly some very dissatisfied subscribers here.  I don't know too many businesses, especially publications, that can afford to dissatisfy customers and have them walk away these days.
 
 
John Stevenson16/12/2010 00:47:21
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Jeff,
Read Roberts reply, first line in the  post above yours.
 
John S.
Ken Biddle16/12/2010 02:58:52
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Robert,
 
I had been weighing the question just this morning.
 
I tried to logging in to the archives on 30 Aug. I had no success. I emailed the CEO, David Clark and the head of the subscritpion department. David replied that my subscription had expired that day and the subscription head replied.
 
I had been receiving the magazines sometimes two issues later than others on more than one occasion, usually about 6 weeks late. I received an email from the distributor asking if I had received my expiration notice. Yes I finally did, it came at the same six week late time period (apparently that is difficult to figure out in some circles). So I could not see the issues online I was supposed to get while wating for the issues and  the subscription notice and I did not appreciate the tone of the subscription department email response. Yesterday I stopped at a large book retailer supposed to carry the magazines monthly and they had issue 169 on the shelf. No luck there either. If you poked your finger on the US map in the middle it would probably be close.
 
I used to subscribe to ME and then MEW later. I recall no such problems. I do miss the MEW issues but delivery problems are tipping the scale.
 
David Clark has always been responsive in trying to resolve problems and I have appreciated that.
Owen17/12/2010 01:19:06
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No Kwil it is not the same. The 32.95USD price is the ROW price similar to the 52.95GBP price fro MEW. For it to be the same there would have to be yet another price for Digital Machinist at 59.00USD applicable to UK residents only. If something like this exsisted I would be the first one to be in your corner backing your complaints. I would do this simply because I am Canadian.
Don Hill05/01/2011 03:29:39
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Been there and done that as far as Canadian pricing discussion is concerned.
 
Just stop the smoke and mirrors answers and DO something about the excessive North American subscription pricing.
 
Robert Miller 105/01/2011 05:55:57
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David,
 
My subscription to MEW is up for renewal.  Express Mags is charging US customers $89 and Canadian (Ontario) customers $99 + $12.87 tax.  
 
The Canadian dollar has been at or near par with the US dollar since September and is now slightly above par, with expectations that it will remain so for some time - due to the US printing money to cover it's deficit.  
 
 I will not renew at an 11% premium to that paid by US customers, particularly since Express Mags is a Canadian company operating out of Montreal.
 
I hope you will encourage Express Mags to bring their pricing into line with current exchange rates.
 

Edited By David Clark 1 on 05/01/2011 08:22:43

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