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Michael Gilligan28/03/2022 08:47:22
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Interesting article ^^^


AJW28/03/2022 09:00:46
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My Mrs loves her 'old' phone.


Stuart Smith 528/03/2022 09:59:50
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I think that report is about the networks in the USA. If you search for U.K. info, the networks say 2023 or 2033. Not sure which is correct. 


Edited By Stuart Smith 5 on 28/03/2022 10:01:31

Edited By Stuart Smith 5 on 28/03/2022 10:02:25

SillyOldDuffer28/03/2022 10:46:56
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Worrying when a new-fangled technology becomes obsolete before I've learned how it works!

Michael's link refers to the USA but much the same story in the UK where the plan is to have complete 5G coverage by 2028 and for 2G and 3G to be gone by 2033.

Odd thing is there's an energetic campaign against 5G because many folk believe the radiation is harmful. This is despite there being no evidence of any danger. Meanwhile, many other are actively against green measures despite solid evidence burning fossil fuels is dangerously harmful. I bet there are people in both groups, wrongv about everything, wanting more coal power-stations and nothing to do with 5G!

Cause for concern that large numbers of people ignore evidence, preferring hearsay, pseudo-science, outdated information, vested interest, or political dogma. Lack of logic suggests the reptilian part of our brain is in charge, and it's reacting emotionally to fear of change and the high-stress of modern living.

As absolutely nothing is simple these days, it's not surprising we're all more-or-less irrational! No excuses though, it's unwise to let the reptile brain take decisions unless being attacked by a bear. Most problems are best solved by dumping pre-conceptions, analysing the evidence, coming up with a plan, and acting on it, adapting as necessary. Never confuse reaction with rational decision making!


Martin Connelly28/03/2022 11:15:15
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Following on from the slightly off topic post by Dave:

I think a lot of the mis-information is down to Facebook monetizing viewing/commenting/likes/dislikes on their videos. The huge group of free energy videos is a case in point. There is no way to make a real perpetual motion machine but there are many ways to fake them on a video. This monetization applies to people who post videos about 5G and then others who comment on posts about 5G. It also keeps the crazy concept of a flat earth alive on the internet. There are plenty of other conspiracy theories that follow the same pattern. Maybe schools need to introduce a new subject, how to spot nonsense on the internet.

Martin C

Hopper28/03/2022 11:27:16
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The 5G radiation is only a problem if you have been Covid19 vaccinated. Apparently it's the microchip in the vaccine wot does it... 

Edited By Hopper on 28/03/2022 11:28:28

MikeK28/03/2022 13:13:17
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Posted by Martin Connelly on 28/03/2022 11:15:15:

Maybe schools need to introduce a new subject, how to spot nonsense on the internet.

Called "media literacy" and is starting to get implemented. My concern is that the larger set of critical thinking skills need addressed first.


Frances IoM28/03/2022 13:45:27
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the smart phones rely on just two operating systems giving a toxic duopoly in which one supplier makes a great profit from surveillance so as to target customers whilst the other exploits its duopoly to make very large profits by forcing updates etc.
Michael Gilligan28/03/2022 14:01:21
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Posted by Stuart Smith 5 on 28/03/2022 09:59:50:

I think that report is about the networks in the USA. If you search for U.K. info, the networks say 2023 or 2033.



Thanks, Stuart … Yes, I am aware of that: I just linked the article because it describes the situation from a different perspective [which is probably relevant to many forum members].


duncan webster28/03/2022 14:19:27
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Plenty of people virulently opposed to nuclear power despite lots of evidence that it is one of the safest ways of generating electricity, and works when the wind doesn't blow, even when it's dark outside.

old mart28/03/2022 16:08:31
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EE and Vodaphone are shutting down their 3G networks in 2023, my ancient Nokia 1100 and my Motorola Moto E both will be bricked. Now I have started researching a replacement and haven't yet decided whether to get a smart phone or one with buttons, some of the monthly deals are quite good value, both of my existing phone are pay as you go.

pgk pgk28/03/2022 16:45:08
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Old Mart,

My previous Motorola phone died recently a d was replaced with a Moto G 60 s and due to no cell service out here is on 1p. Much to my surprise I discovered that it will accept WiFi calling despite 1p not officially offering that. And it's not a terribly expensive phone. Also picks up a signal way closer to home than the old one. No need to climb the hill first..


Peter Greene 🇨🇦28/03/2022 18:18:06
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Couldn't be anything to do with selling more phones could it?

Speedy Builder528/03/2022 19:27:32
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Anyone remember FAX ?? FAX Group 1 (1974) transmitted an A4 document in about 6 minutes. By the time Group 4 arrived, transmission speed came down to about 1 minute.

Today, who even uses FAX.??


MikeK28/03/2022 19:52:42
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 28/03/2022 19:27:32:

Today, who even uses FAX.??


Nicholas Farr28/03/2022 21:37:51
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Hi Bob, a lot of business still uses Fax, but Telex was used for years before Fax.

Regards Nick.

Peter Greene 🇨🇦28/03/2022 22:21:55
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I have a device that monitors my pacemaker while I'm in bed and asleep and sends the data back to base via 3G (this is partly because the battery in this model is not lasting as long as predicted in some cases and this avoids having to frequently have it checked at the hospital; partly because it lets them stretch out the regular checkout period anyway which helps in this day and age).

I presume this won't work any more - although the change may come a bit later in Canada

Speedy Builder529/03/2022 06:18:56
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Appaently, TELEX is still used in some financial exchanges. Years ago, late 70's, I wrote a program to punch TELEX tape for all overdue purchase orders. The TX operator had a fit when we presented her with 900 ft of tape and a few hundred TX numbers to dial up.


Michael Gilligan30/03/2022 23:22:48
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Here’s another little gem that I didn’t know about until tonight:

The copper landline network is due to be discontinued sooner than I thought :




”We now send as much data every 10 minutes over the internet that was produced from the beginning of time to 2003 and it’s only increasing – so we need a network that can cope. ”

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 30/03/2022 23:25:30

Martin Connelly31/03/2022 07:34:04
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2 days ago BT announced they were putting a hold on the change away from analogue phone lines when they finally listened to all the noise they were getting about the impact on the elderly and anyone who needed to call emergency services during a power cut and lived in a not spot. BT admitted the change was started too soon and they had failed to do a proper impact assessment.

Martin C

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