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Mike Poole13/03/2022 09:51:25
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3da04538-a1e1-4011-a219-2554d593c6c2.jpegYesterday we were on a shopping trip to the Swindon Outlet complex in the old rail works, the Steam museum is next door and well worth a visit but this Loco is in the shopping centre. As shopping is one of my pet hates I amused myself by examining the old machinery that is dotted round the centre. While looking at Ditchead Manor I noticed the three brackets on the black deck area and a similar arrangement on the rear of the tender, I expect everyone knows they are lamp brackets but it didn’t occur to me so a quick Google soon found the brackets with lamps installed, a bit more digging and I discovered that the lamps are installed in different patterns depending on the loco function. Everyday is a school day.


Edited By Mike Poole on 13/03/2022 10:56:42

noel shelley13/03/2022 10:47:55
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The HEAD CODE - but can't help thinking the brackets should be rotated 90*, with the bolts at the back ? The 2 lanps I have would not fit on this arrangement ! Noel.

Dave Wootton13/03/2022 10:53:12
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The GWR liked to do things differently, the lamp bracket mountings are on the side of their lamps, most others were on the back.


Mike Poole13/03/2022 10:55:29
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The brackets on the tender were the same orientation, perhaps the different rail companies had different systems, from the bit I read about the lamp code it was not a universal standard. I suppose it would have been standardised after nationalisation. I am only a lightweight steam fan I know very little but find much of interest.


SillyOldDuffer13/03/2022 10:59:26
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Posted by noel shelley on 13/03/2022 10:47:55:

... can't help thinking the brackets should be rotated 90*, with the bolts at the back ? The 2 lanps I have would not fit on this arrangement...

Well spotted! I notice the bolts seem to allow the brackets to be put on either way, Does that mean the GWR had two different types of lamp? I bet a long book could be written on the development of railway lighting. If yt doesn't exist already.


Tim Hammond13/03/2022 11:59:52
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I remember when I was a child ( 60+ years ago ) my mother would occasionally buy " Grape Nuts " breakfast cereal, and on the back of the boxes was an explanation of the headcodes of BR Southern Region locos. That region seemed to use white - painted discs rather than lamps.

Nick Clarke 313/03/2022 17:10:10
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In ME 1942 F.C. Hambleton had a long series of articles on loco headlamps of the pre-grouping and grouping railway companies.

Before you ask I don't have many of the articles myself, but a trip to your nearest main library will get you access - for me it would be the library of Birmingham, but Nottingham Central Library also used to have a complete set of old ME magazines for reference. Or perhaps your club might be able to help if you are a member of one. Have a look at the online ME index to see which articles would be of interest - but I suspect they would all be in a single bound volume.

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Clive Brown 113/03/2022 18:27:05
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There's a BR(W) pattern loco. lamp currently on eBay. The door to access the wick is at the rear so the mount goes at the side. Good ol' GWR design!

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