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UK fires up old coal power plant as gas prices soar

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Ady106/09/2021 23:08:25
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ho hum


Bill Davies 206/09/2021 23:11:10
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Fail to plan, plan to fail ...

peak407/09/2021 02:01:15
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You can monitor the grid HERE if it's of interest.


Tony Pratt 107/09/2021 07:11:18
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So the idiots in charge aren’t as stupid as I thought,the media were telling us all the coal power stations were being demolished with no replacement atm🤔😬


J Hancock07/09/2021 08:11:23
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TP1 , sorry , but 'they' are even more stupid than you can ever imagine.

Ask 'them' if they can fire up Ferrybridge, Didcot, Eggborough , etc .

The remaining buildings may burn well but that's all .

Luck, is all that is keeping the lights on 24/7 .

V8Eng07/09/2021 08:51:35
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Posted by Ady1 on 06/09/2021 23:08:25:

ho hum


Even that may not be possible in a years time.

Coal station closure

KWIL07/09/2021 09:02:28
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When the wind does not blow there is plenty of alternative hot air about. Mind you not much good for generating power.

Edited By KWIL on 07/09/2021 09:02:44

pgk pgk07/09/2021 09:26:29
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What are the alternatives? Agile has an electricity contract that charges rates dependent on instant wholesale prices and has been as high as 35p/kWh recently with gas being in short supply and little wind. Nuclear sounds good but always ends up costing way more than advertised when it comes to decommissioning and the more of those you build the more three-mile-island/Chernobyl/Fukushima's are going to happen. I'm all for stuffing nuclear stations on the East coast and only firing them up when the wind is blowing towards France but wind has a habit of circling back again. Tidal power is reliable iF one could avoid marine environment damage. Perhaps the only solution is more wind stations combines with some way of storing excess generation for lean times - and there's no good answer to that (Hot sodium, weights up hills, H2 ?)
And with the stubbornness of US coal powered leccy and China's intransigence we're spitting into the gale...

Those of us who grew up with frost on the inside of the bedroom windows, thick pyjamas and waiting for dad to light the fire so we could get dressed in the sitting room don't particularly want to go back but know the human race can survive without cooking up a whole house out of convenience.

I get into enough trouble trying to get OH to turn the rads off in rooms we aren't using..


Ady107/09/2021 09:44:50
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Up here in scotchland I don't think I have ever seen it so calm for so long

Enjoying it while it lasts, because we won't see this again for a long time

J Hancock07/09/2021 10:32:28
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Nuclear decommissioning costs were 'built -into' the CEGB budgets.

That money 'disappeared' with privatisation.

Samsaranda07/09/2021 10:44:44
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PGK, I think the French beat us to it, they have positioned a number of their nuclear plants on the coast of Brittany and with the prevailing wind being a south westerly, where I live in East Sussex is right in the firing line if they happen to have an “accidental” discharge. Dave W

Kiwi Bloke07/09/2021 12:18:11
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'Clean, Green New Zealand' [laughter] has just burned more coal than ever before. It seems that we're not alone. There's really no hope, while 'the economy' is all-important.

Investment tip: invest in coal mines!

Tony Pratt 107/09/2021 13:54:28
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Posted by Kiwi Bloke on 07/09/2021 12:18:11:

'Clean, Green New Zealand' [laughter] has just burned more coal than ever before. It seems that we're not alone. There's really no hope, while 'the economy' is all-important.

Investment tip: invest in coal mines!

Our 'economy' has to be important else we will not have the money to go completely green & save 1% of CO2 world emissions.wink


J Hancock07/09/2021 15:29:49
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'Wiki ' CEGB and weep.

1971 , we had 55GW installed capacity , and would max. out at 45GW on a 'good ' day.

The difference is the 'export' of our heavy industries to China , with predictable results.

old mart07/09/2021 17:28:26
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Better stop using your electric car until the problem is resolved.

mark costello 107/09/2021 17:41:21
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Steam power forever!wink

J Hancock03/11/2021 09:06:53
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A really special day today , 0840hrs.

The entire output of our coal-fired stations being exported to Europe via the interconnectors.

V8Eng03/11/2021 09:16:37
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Posted by J Hancock on 03/11/2021 09:06:53:

A really special day today , 0840hrs.

The entire output of our coal-fired stations being exported to Europe via the interconnectors.

Does that mean the recipients are effectively exporting their pollution to the U.K.?

Nigel McBurney 103/11/2021 09:55:29
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it was just the same in the 1960s,the destruction of our railways and scrapping of of a couple thousand steam new locos,now its the power stations stupidly scrapped,and sitting on our own coalfields,all this carbon reduction crap is going to eventually cripple our economy and dramatically increase our cost of living. I read now that they are going to build floating off shore windmills ,in deeper water,how long will they last in the stormy sees we get around the uk. As for corn grinding windmills,and watermills historically they proved useless as the population grew and needed more food and flour,most of them ended their days with a great big diesel to drive the milling machinery when the winfd and water supply failed,I am fed up with all the tv news being filled with a load of idiot meeting in Scotland,Whats the point in crippling ourselves with grandiose plans when China and others churn out loads of carbon crap and do not care a damn.

noel shelley03/11/2021 10:25:23
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Floating windmills, ummm ! Sea gem and texas tower 4 come to mind ! Vast megalithic structure moving towards a perceived precipise at speed, depress clutch, select reverse and release clutch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're all I believe intellegent people here, lets be practical, Eg, what do politicians know about power generation and electric cars ?

Enough ! Noel.

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