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Martin King 212/06/2021 09:17:52
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Hi All,

I know zip about electric motors but am now getting the materials together for my linisher build using the Phil Vandelay plans on You Tube.

Picking up the water jetted parts on Monday but want to order the motor.

He got his in Germany and the link is this:

https://shop.dwema.de/Elektromotor-Drehstrom-15kW-S6-3000-min-Welle-19mm-80-B14160mm-Flansch

Please can anyone spec this exact motor for me to buy in the UK as I really do not want to get this wrong!

Also what would be a suitable VFD unit to go with this motor please?

Sorry to be so dim!

Cheers, Martin

br12/06/2021 09:23:42
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Daft question, no doubt, but can you not purchase the one specified from Germany ?

bill

Edited By br on 12/06/2021 09:24:02

DC31k12/06/2021 09:24:43
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Send a link to the item to Inverter Drive Supermarket.

Under the picture in the link is a table, headed "Typenschild:"

3 phase, 1.5kW, 2730rpm (In UK, we would note it as 2800rpm), flange mounted, B14 frame size, 19mm dia. shaft.

My German is non-existent but it does not take a whole lot of translation skill to determine the above.

noel shelley12/06/2021 09:31:08
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The only error was the missing ". " so it's 1.5Kw ie 2 Hp ! As DC3 says, it's fairly obvious. It won't be cheap though ! Must be a wide belt or very long. I have a 6" belt used for brass on a .75Kw  motor. Noel.

Edited By noel shelley on 12/06/2021 09:36:25

jann west12/06/2021 09:47:01
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perhaps this?

https://www.bearingboys.co.uk/?catid=2543&display=&orderby=&att1=1.5&att2=&att3=&att4=19mm&att5=

Robert Atkinson 212/06/2021 09:47:18
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Hi,

You don't need that exact motor as it is a industry standard size. You need a 3 phase 4 pole 80 frame B14 flange mount motor e.g.

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/?filter=Power%7c1.5kW%2cMounting%7cB14+Face&filter=Frame%7c80

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/TECA-B14-High-Efficiency-AC-Motor-2-Pole-80-Short/

I've not used this suppler but others on here have given good reports. Rhey obviously do inverters too.

Call or email them with the link you have to the motor and see if they can help.

Robert G8RPI.

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 12/06/2021 09:48:50

Martin King 212/06/2021 10:00:56
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Hi Robert,

Found this one:

leccy motor.jpg

Will this be OK?

It is just that I have a dread of ordering a big lump like this and opening it to find it is wrong, silly I know!

Any links for a VFD please, I know nothing about these either! Happy to help anyone out who wants to make a TV commercial or a Feature Film! wink

Martin

Clive Brown 112/06/2021 10:34:52
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I'm not a motor expert, but the OP's link says B14 flange, but the corresponding picture is a B5 flange.

Clarification needed or have I missed something.

John Haine12/06/2021 10:49:18
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Posted by Robert Atkinson 2 on 12/06/2021 09:47:18:

Hi,

You don't need that exact motor as it is a industry standard size. You need a 3 phase 4 pole 80 frame B14 flange mount motor e.g.

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/?filter=Power%7c1.5kW%2cMounting%7cB14+Face&filter=Frame%7c80

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/TECA-B14-High-Efficiency-AC-Motor-2-Pole-80-Short/

I've not used this suppler but others on here have given good reports. Rhey obviously do inverters too.

Call or email them with the link you have to the motor and see if they can help.

Robert G8RPI.

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 12/06/2021 09:48:50

2800 rpm = 2 pole

br12/06/2021 11:07:34
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Is multiplle posting a forum fault just out of interest ?

I have posted and it has come up twice but never seen it four times as per Robert above ?

bill

John Haine12/06/2021 11:41:59
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Hmmm - from my mobile. Took a long time to upload obviously doing it 4 times!

SillyOldDuffer12/06/2021 12:45:51
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Posted by John Haine on 12/06/2021 11:41:59:

Hmmm - from my mobile. Took a long time to upload obviously doing it 4 times!

I deleted the 3 extras. Duplicates never happento me with a real keyboard and mouse. They do occasionally when I use my touchpad equipped laptop. I think brushing the touchpad with my sleeve sends unwanted Enters. Touch screens are intolerant of slightly shaky fingers too - my ebook misunderstands me every ten pages or so. My kids have no problem with it.

Dave

Martin King 212/06/2021 12:47:28
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Hi,

See, here we go, 2 Pole, 4 Pole! all means nothing to me. I just need what the German motor is.

German link does not state whether 2 or 4 pole?

The pic I posted says B14 flange not B5 whatever that is?

Getting confused now!

Is the pic I posted OK? (2 Pole), will that work with a VFD?

Martin

Emgee12/06/2021 12:53:41
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Martin

You need the 2 pole motor and dual voltage 220/380v connected delta to operate from a 230v AC single phase supply VFD. As said check exact flange, B5 in the link you provided, B14 is smaller PCD fixings direct to motor endplate.

Emgee

Edited By Emgee on 12/06/2021 13:02:33

Vic12/06/2021 12:54:34
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Martin, will you be doing a build log on this project?

Martin King 212/06/2021 13:04:43
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Hi Vic,

I will have a go at a build log on a new posting, it will be warts and al;l as this will really stretch my skill level.

It is not a very cheap project so I hope that I do not make many costly mistakes, hence my worry over this motor.

Here are the waterjetted parts that I collect on Monday and will make a start when I have got all fasteners, VFD and metal stock together.

wjettedparts.jpg

The large pulley was jetted from 100mm stock and machined for me as I cannot get that big in my Myford!

Also there is no way that i can cut 15mm steel and ally in those sizes.

The small parts bottom right are clamps for plough planes, another project, one that has gone VERY well!

Cheers, Martin

Martin King 212/06/2021 13:17:54
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Hi,

This is the flange that I need as per the drawings for the linisher, I agree that the German link calls this a B14, but is it?

Just checked with the maker of the linisher and waiting to hear back.

leccymotor 2.jpg

Martin

Emgee12/06/2021 13:53:33
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b5 b14 motor flanges.jpg

peak412/06/2021 13:54:33
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Martin, If you have a facebook account, you might consider joining this private group.
By the nature of the project, it's primarily US based, but there are UK members as well.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/847488865357217

Bill

Vic12/06/2021 15:19:33
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Thanks Martin, very interesting project. I’ve been meaning to make a belt grinder myself but I’ve not seen any designs that I particularly like. I sharpen many of my tools on a belt and disc sander but would like something a bit more flexible.

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