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chester champion mk1 foot print & working space?

anyone able to give me an idea of space i need

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drum maker20/04/2021 12:18:22
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anyone able to give me a realistic space requirement for this machine? not just its physical footprint but what space i around it, etc

thanks

not done it yet20/04/2021 13:04:49
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Table including handle(s) plus table travel and knuckle room? Jobs can overhang the table at times?

Edited By not done it yet on 20/04/2021 13:05:07

drum maker20/04/2021 13:14:25
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Posted by not done it yet on 20/04/2021 13:04:49:

Table including handle(s) plus table travel and knuckle room? Jobs can overhang the table at times?

Edited By not done it yet on 20/04/2021 13:05:07

table travel allowance & knuckle room would be ideal....

just want to know the actual room needed for the machine itself at this stage, over hanging work will be considered once i have the first part of info.

Oldiron20/04/2021 15:31:15
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Posted by drum maker on 20/04/2021 12:18:22:

anyone able to give me a realistic space requirement for this machine? not just its physical footprint but what space i around it, etc

thanks

just want to know the actual room needed for the machine itself at this stage, over hanging work will be considered once i have the first part of info.

You should be able to get the dimensions from Chester. They are quite helpfull.

regards

drum maker20/04/2021 15:55:08
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Posted by Oldiron on 20/04/2021 15:31:15:
Posted by drum maker on 20/04/2021 12:18:22:

anyone able to give me a realistic space requirement for this machine? not just its physical footprint but what space i around it, etc

thanks

just want to know the actual room needed for the machine itself at this stage, over hanging work will be considered once i have the first part of info.

You should be able to get the dimensions from Chester. They are quite helpfull.

regards

i have the physical dimensions from Chester.....

SillyOldDuffer20/04/2021 17:36:51
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Not quite sure exactly what Drum Maker is after, but I'd allow at least 500mm space for the operator in front of the handles, and enough space on the left to slide the tailstock off without twisting my back. About 200mm on my machine.

I prefer to have much more space at the headstock end so I can get at the change gears and belts comfortably. It's also handy to have plenty of room to overhang rod out through the spindle. Some jobs, like threading the end of a pipe, need a few metres and space for a trestle support. I have about a metre.

I mounted my lathe sideways with the tailstock at the wall end and overhanging a storage box, and back to back with my mill. This gives about 350mm rear squeeze access to both machines: jolly helpful if anything falls behind or I need to get at the VFD, or motor or the mill's rear oiling point. Now I'm less supple, I'm finding it harder to get out of a 350mm space. Nearly got stuck last time I went in - not strong enough for the necessary contortions. Reminded me of Beatrix Kiddo punching her way out of a coffin after being buried alive. I'm not fit enough to be a Deadly Viper!

Sideways turned out to be better than having the lathe against the wall. It was an accident! I hadn't quite cleared enough space for my engine crane to swivel the lathe into position against the wall as planned, so I plonked it down at 90° instead. Worked out so well I won't change it.

For H&S reasons it's not good to work crammed up against machinery, especially if other people areabout. Last time I visited a machine room there was enough space around the machines to drive a fork-lift truck around them. However, needs must in a small shed!

Dave

Samsaranda20/04/2021 17:45:40
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Dave, I think Chester Champion refers to a mill, I have a Chester Champion V20 mill. Dave W

not done it yet20/04/2021 18:42:54
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Dave (SOD),

enough space on the left to slide the tailstock off


If I were you, I would remove the tailstock from the front! (more space🙂 ).

JasonB20/04/2021 18:46:14
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 20/04/2021 17:36:51:

and enough space on the left to slide the tailstock off without twisting my back.

Do you have to take the headstock and carrage off your lathe to do that Dave, If I need to slide the tailstock of my lathe I move it to the RIGHT.

As said its a mill

Nicholas Farr20/04/2021 19:02:24
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Hi drum maker, assuming it has no power feed on the table and you don't what to rotate the head no more than 90 degrees each way, you will need at least 1300mm left to right, but 1400mm would be more comfortable and you will need 650mm front to back plus operator space. If you need to put it into a corner, you will need a bit more front to back space.

Regards Nick.

drum maker20/04/2021 19:18:35
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Posted by Nicholas Farr on 20/04/2021 19:02:24:

Hi drum maker, assuming it has no power feed on the table and you don't what to rotate the head no more than 90 degrees each way, you will need at least 1300mm left to right, but 1400mm would be more comfortable and you will need 650mm front to back plus operator space. If you need to put it into a corner, you will need a bit more front to back space.

Regards Nick.


thanks Nick that’s all I needed.

SillyOldDuffer20/04/2021 22:05:30
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Posted by JasonB on 20/04/2021 18:46:14:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 20/04/2021 17:36:51:

and enough space on the left to slide the tailstock off without twisting my back.

Do you have to take the headstock and carrage off your lathe to do that Dave, If I need to slide the tailstock of my lathe I move it to the RIGHT.

As said its a mill

Gosh, this must be my most spectacular brain-fade yet! Right, left, mill and lathe all confused.

Definitely moving into 'What has the clown done now?' territory...

blush

Russell Eberhardt21/04/2021 16:22:08
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I have the Warco version of that mill (ZX15) and have it mounted on a drip tray 35 in. wide by 25 in. back to front. You do need another 8 in. each side though to accomodate full movement of the x travel but if you arrange it so that the table is above the height of the bench or whatever you have at the side you can allow the table to extend over the bench.

One big improvement I have made is to replace the single phase motor with a three phase one and inverter. Not only gives you easy speed variation but reduces vibration and thus improves surface finish.

Russell

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