I do know, I just wish to test your machinery knowledge!
|William S||11/04/2021 19:34:25|
53 forum posts
Hello all just a bit of fun, testing your knowledge on old machinery, can any one guess what this is from:
I do know what its from, so guess away!
Edited By JasonB on 11/04/2021 19:36:57
|Jon Lawes||11/04/2021 20:28:42|
556 forum posts
Some sort of industrial mimeograph machine or similar? The belt drives are intriguing?
|John Pace||11/04/2021 20:31:53|
|266 forum posts|
Crystal lake cylindrical grinder drive unit or similar type machine.
|David Noble||11/04/2021 20:36:56|
256 forum posts
|Sam Stones||11/04/2021 20:48:19|
819 forum posts
I have no idea what it is William.
However, in the background of a couple of your pictures there’s a Taylor Hobson (or similar) pantograph engraver.
Let us know soon.
Edited By Sam Stones on 11/04/2021 20:48:46
|Oily Rag||11/04/2021 21:01:13|
416 forum posts
1920's shoe polisher machine as placed next to elevators in posh hotels! Required a high bar stool to use so quickly fell out of favour. Mops and polish applicator missing.
Seriously - Haven't got a clue!
But what I thought was intriguing was the pulleys in one photograph appear to be the wrong way round giving identical speeds whichever pulley is chosen.
|John Pace||11/04/2021 21:03:42|
|266 forum posts|
It was the similar type machine ,look on Lathes uk Jones and Shipman 520 cylindrical grinder. Is the machine
that you have in your album a J&S 520 grinder.
|Nigel Graham 2||11/04/2021 21:34:50|
|1525 forum posts|
No idea, but it looks "white goods" enough to me to suggest specialist aspects of the printing or textiles trades.
Or an electrical coil-winder? The clue being the shaft just visible in the gloomy depths, looking like a lead-screw to ensure correct wrapping of the wire. If so there ought be a rapid-reversing mechanism on that screw; and something for holding the core on a mandrel or between centres, and both functions adjustable.
Is its stand original? It seems a different colour though that might be shadows, but looks of much older style, as if originally for a lathe. Could be cast aluminium rather than iron. Or a welded fabrication.
The machine's general styling and paint-work to me suggests 1950s-60s, maybe 70s. I think that era partly because 1930s-50s machines not being machine-tools as we'd ordinarily think, were often though not exclusively finished in black, possibly crackle, and chrome; and the casings on earlier ones were sometimes in distinctive art deco style to match the very latest in office and clean-goods fashions.
No maker's name or trade-mark anywhere on it?
Don't tell us... your next question will be for advice on getting it, the press and engraver up those stairs and into the spare bedroom without the Domestic Authorities catching you in mid-"flight" ......
|jon hill 3||11/04/2021 22:36:14|
|105 forum posts|
At a guess something to do with printing or book binding, judging by the presses on the floor?
|1597 forum posts|
Useful machine if you have all the other parts of it as well!
Edited By V8Eng on 11/04/2021 23:07:02
|Matt Harrington||11/04/2021 23:12:27|
182 forum posts
I could be completely wrong but is it an overhead drive unit for a Jones Shipman Cylindrical grinder? Model 520?
|William S||12/04/2021 18:57:06|
53 forum posts
The 2 people that said cylindrical grinder, you were correct, it is the overhead drive off a Jones and Shipman 520:
Image from Lathes.co.uk
The grinder however I am unsure about!
I belive it to be a Crystal Lake-http://www.lathes.co.uk/crystallake/
The shape of the castings look very similar, bulbous shape to the wheelhead bearings etc. what do people think?
I acquired the grinder last September from the nephew of the previous owner, who didn't know anything about it, when I got it it looked like this:
It has been stripped down and looks to be have been undergoing an overhaul, surfaces have been scraped as well as the bearings. It has been largely repainted just the wheelhead and tailstock needs finishing. There is a box somewhere with all the ancillary items which a previous owner has lost, the nephew could not find anything that looked to relate to it so I am in the dark with what I am missing. I have worked out the cam operated locks for the workhead and tailstocks.
The drive I thought was going to have to be homemade as finding something would be like looking for rocking horse doo dah. That was until I stumbled across an ebay listing for the above overhead drive! Turned out to be a chap I had dealt with before just around the corner from me! What were the chances.
It appears to be all there, minus some bolts and springs, a quick tweak with the clutch adjustment and that seems to work, it needs a taking to bits and a good clean, working out all the belt runs etc. The pulleys being the same way might be intentional, needs investigating. The lathes site explains the drive a bit if people are interested
|John Pace||12/04/2021 20:23:13|
|266 forum posts|
Nice find that grinder ,they seem to be quite rare .it is almost made as a mirror image of the J&S 520 grinder ,i saw the photos in your album some time ago in the photo No4 the lettering on the casting looked as if it was JS0 by the drain hole at the rear of the machine but the machine did not look like the 520 grinder ,looks as if it is mostly there the end covers are missing from the table , certainly looks to be a Crystal lake grinder.I think that they are still in business .
Write some more when you get it going.
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