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James Alford04/02/2021 07:27:32
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I have seen a few 00 gauge live steam locomotives on YouTube recently; models which are not the commercial Hornby products, but seemingly home built.

Purely out of curiosity, I should like to see either some plans for such small models or a build log for one. It must be quite precision modelling. Sadly, I have not been able to find anything. Does anyone know of any such plans, web sites or videoes?

Regards,

James.

Alan Donovan04/02/2021 07:49:19
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Hi James.

I cannot help with your original question, but there is a society for those interested in these models.

This may be a good place to start.

www.oolivesteam.com

Best regards & keep safe. Alan

PS.  Please report back what you find as I am sure others will be interested. 

Edited By Alan Donovan on 04/02/2021 07:51:50

James Alford04/02/2021 08:12:44
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Alan,

Thank you fo rthe link. I cannot work out whether that group is just about Hornby models or 00 gauge steam in general. However, I have signed up to find out. I shall update this thread when my application has been approved.

Regards,

James.

Jeff Dayman04/02/2021 09:49:06
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There was a Mr A A Sherwood in Australia in the late 1970's / early 1980's who designed and made many outstanding HO/OO -and smaller- live steam locomotives. Google can probably find some data on his work.

Weary04/02/2021 10:14:48
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If you search +++ sherwood +++ in this Model Engineer index you will find quite a few articles of his covering construction of 00 (and still smaller) live steam locomotives from the late 50's referenced.

Regards,

Phil

Brian G04/02/2021 10:19:26
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I remember seeing Brian Caton's OO9 "rabbit warren" at a show many years ago. The locos were meths fired with a geared single cylinder in the cab. As well as the saddle tank as shown in this video there was a steam tram loco. I think he built some 00 locos as well.

Brian G
https://youtu.be/9ZsjikgGvmg

Howard Lewis04/02/2021 14:32:04
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There was a design for a live steam 00 gauge Crampton.

Maybe drawings exist?

Unfortunately the equipment for lost wax castings vanished after only two sets had been made.

One such model is in this country. Stan Bray exhibited it on the PSME stand at Show (Festival of Model Railways ) alongside a 5" Crampton, as "Little and Large".

But more recently it suffered damage and one or more new wheels were needed.

Howard

James Alford04/02/2021 22:51:23
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Thank you for all of the information. I have found some information about AA Sherwood's engines which is interesting. I have joined the OOlivesteam site, but it seems to be all about Hornby products, rather than steam per se.

I shall have a look at the rest of the suggestions as well.

Regards,

James.

WILLIAM FREEMAN 105/02/2021 10:50:21
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Hi James, I have a couple of Brian Caton's Live Steam loco's in 009 (same scale as 00 but for narrow gauge) and I have good knowledge of how his 00 locos worked. I was lucky enough to be a good friend of Brian, and he was my mentor in model engineering for many years. he was a superb model engineer with an encyclopedic knowledge of the railways.

The 00 locos had a refillable gas tank located in the tender and a gas fired centre flue boiler mounted in the traditional place. The locos were driven by a single acting piston valve engine with slip eccentric mounted in the cab. The crank of the engine was running parallel to the loco and then gear reduced down and linked to one of the driving axles of the loco. From there the coupling rods of the model did their own work. The engines were not self starting but after a gentle push in either direction the engine would run happily, in forward or reverse, due to the slip eccentric. the locos were fitted with a regulator which was servo controlled through the track, this could be isolated in order to not play havoc with 'foreign' layouts. The regulator could also be controlled from the cab by hand, if you were delicate.

I'd be very happy to answer any questions you have on his loco's I can probably find a few pictures of them.

Regards,

Will

James Alford05/02/2021 22:10:11
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Good evening, Will,

Thank you for your reply and for the information, which is just what I was hoping to find. I would greatly appreciate any pictures which you may be able to post.

One year, I should like to build a steam locomotive. Much as a 3 1/2" or similar engine has an appeal, the cost is a major consideration. Smaller engines using 0 gauge track have an appeal (I have a Mamod narrow gauge engine already), but the track is very dear. Something using 00 track appeals because of the cost of track, the small size appeals in itself and it would be well within the scope of my small lathe.

Regards,

James.

Bazyle06/02/2021 13:39:08
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Posted by James Alford on 04/02/2021 22:51:23:

I have joined the OOlivesteam site, but it seems to be all about Hornby products, rather than steam per se..

Try raising the subject on that forum. They probably only concentrate on the Hornby because that is what is available to non-ME types and would appreciate opening up other possibilites.

James - if you join the 16mm Association yu can get to lots of other people's tracks and meet more modellers which is half the attraction for many. Also an increasing number of ME clubs are building smaller gauge tracks. At SADMES we have a G0 and G1 track build plan awaiting the end of restrictions.

Edited By Bazyle on 06/02/2021 15:58:29

James Alford07/02/2021 09:13:48
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Posted by Bazyle on 06/02/2021 13:39:08:
Posted by James Alford on 04/02/2021 22:51:23:

I have joined the OOlivesteam site, but it seems to be all about Hornby products, rather than steam per se..

Try raising the subject on that forum. They probably only concentrate on the Hornby because that is what is available to non-ME types and would appreciate opening up other possibilites.

James - if you join the 16mm Association yu can get to lots of other people's tracks and meet more modellers which is half the attraction for many. Also an increasing number of ME clubs are building smaller gauge tracks. At SADMES we have a G0 and G1 track build plan awaiting the end of restrictions.

Edited By Bazyle on 06/02/2021 15:58:29

I confess that I had not considered joining the 16mm Association. Also, your comment about your SADMES club prompted me to look at the local VAMES club, which I had half-forgotten about. They have a large site at a steam preservation centre nearby and have gauge G and 0 gauge tracks, as well as 7 ¼”, 5” and 3 ½” gauges.

James.

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